Not a fan, so I don't listen.

 

We can agree on one thing. :thumb:

Mods, shut this thread down...RTS and HB20 just agreed! Maybe that "particle accelerator" test that was conducted today has truly caused a chasm in the space-time continuum. :lol:

Yeah that's what I said, the Dem are to blame for everything.

You seemed to be pinning some blame on the Democrats ... your post seemed to be going in that direction.

I was pointing out that things have taken a nose dive since the Dems took over congress.

Are the two events related? It sure seemed like you were saying so.

Mods, shut this thread down...RTS and HB20 just agreed! Maybe that "particle accelerator" test that was conducted today has truly caused a chasm in the space-time continuum. :lol:

:lol:

Mods, shut this thread down...RTS and HB20 just agreed! Maybe that "particle accelerator" test that was conducted today has truly caused a chasm in the space-time continuum. :lol:

 

:lol: :lol:

I've been called worse, so if this is all it takes to offend her...:lol:

Well, when you control both houses of Congress and the White House, and have the country unified behind you in response to a national tragedy, and you utterly fail to use that situation effectively, it's pretty hard to claim the other guy owns an equal share of the failure. The Republicans have squandered the opportunities handed to them over the last eight years.

 

That is my biggest disappointment. They became what they had gained office fighting against.

I believe 60 votes are required to overcome a filibuster, and a 2/3 vote is required to override a veto. Democrats have a 51-49 margin in the Senate since 2006, and 2 of those 51 are actually Independents (one being Joe Lieberman). So it is actually 49/49/2, with tiebreaker being VP Dick Cheney. Not a tremendous amount of control.

 

Actually it is a great deal of control if you have an effective leader. They don't and have very little success to show for their time in power. The republicans are able to block much of what they attempt, just as the democrats were able to do over the past few years. The threat of a filibuster is very powerful. One thing that may happen, and this is not a happy thought, is that the democrats have a reasonable chance to get to 60 seats if Obama wins.

Very poor choice of words.

I don't think he was taking a slam at Palin and calling her a pig.

But it could be taken that way.

Very unfortunate choice of words.

Interesting...

 

OBAMA: Let's just list this for a second. John McCain says he's about change, too. Except -- and so I guess his whole angle is, "Watch out, George Bush, except for economic policy, health-care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and Karl Rove-style politics. We're really gonna shake things up in Washington." That's not change. That's just calling some -- the same thing, something different. But you know, you can -- you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig. - Obama Pig in Lipstick speech 9/9/08

 

From the Washington Post on 9/5/08:

Interesting...

 

 

 

From the Washington Post on 9/5/08:

 

In other talks over the past couple of days, Senator Obama has been citing the Toles cartoon by name.

Now that is a coincidence

In other talks over the past couple of days, Senator Obama has been citing the Toles cartoon by name.

That sounds a little like Biden's defense of using Bobby Kennedy.'s speeches without attribution a few years ago. Did Obama cite the Toles cartoon in this particular speech and do you have a quote or a video clip to support the assertion that Obama credited Toles earlier?

 

I am not accusing Obama of anything but using somebody else's words without attribution after putting Biden on the ticket is pretty sloppy politics, IMO.

Interesting...

 

 

 

From the Washington Post on 9/5/08:

 

Got a link for the Obama quote?

OK, I found that Obama credited Toles during his appearance on Countdown. Still, using the words without attribution on a later date was a major gaffe and will remind people that he picked a plagiarist as a running mate.