January 1, 200917 yr agreed. Playing time is one thing but kids/parents should value the fact that their child can learn so much more about life just by being on a team and having a coach who cares and tries to relay his/her experiences to them. They need to step back, listen and ask their child to take as much in from the coaches as possible.. They will appreciate it later in life. To many parents think that winning at all cost is the final judgment. These are the same parents who are normally coaching from the stands. A lot of these parents are also teaching the wrong things at home. A good middle school or anything below JV/Varsity coach spends a lot of times talking to his players on the bench and involves all of them in time outs. When you have a coach who just sits and lets them play or is more involved with "helping" the officials, that is not a coach interested in developing your kid he is more interested in his own "stats" (W-L).
January 1, 200917 yr Curious what everyone thinks regarding how important it is for each coach to develop their respective bench throughout the year? In Middle School ball.... Do you identify 5 - 8 top kids and focus on them or should you look to develop most, if not all, the kids on your team? Who is the best? I think it all depends on how many kids are kept on a middle school team. If a school keeps 13-15 kids then there are not enough minutes in a game to get everyone ample playing time to develop. Development should happen in practice as well as on a kids own time. I never had all the fancy camps and AAU and such when I was a kid. I played ball by myself in an alley and worked on my ballhandling, shooting, footwork, etc. Kids and parents need to work on development outside of the regular school team because there just isnt enough time when you have that many kids. With 6 minute quarters if you try to get everyone in the game it doesnt allow the first 7/8 kids enough time to get into a flow. Personally I think Middle school teams should be capped at 12 players max and any other kids should play in a recreational league or form an AAU team if they are good enough. There is a reason there is a cut but development can sometimes not occur with the bottom 5 or 6 kids if they are not getting enough minutes or there isnt enough practice time. That is why I say they should work on their skills to get better outside of school and play on other teams. I honestly don't count on Middle school ball to develop my son, I think its a chance for him to play for his school and friends. This year they have a great coach who is teaching them things they have never been taught but there simply arent enough minutes in a game nor enough Middle school practices to really develop. This is why he plays on off days at the ARmory, plays on an AAU team who also has started to practice and tries to play as much as he can. Blaming a middle school coach for your kid not playing or your kid not making a team is the last thing you should do. Find other ways to get them with a ball in their hands.
January 2, 200917 yr Well said!! I think it all depends on how many kids are kept on a middle school team. If a school keeps 13-15 kids then there are not enough minutes in a game to get everyone ample playing time to develop. Development should happen in practice as well as on a kids own time. I never had all the fancy camps and AAU and such when I was a kid. I played ball by myself in an alley and worked on my ballhandling, shooting, footwork, etc. Kids and parents need to work on development outside of the regular school team because there just isnt enough time when you have that many kids. With 6 minute quarters if you try to get everyone in the game it doesnt allow the first 7/8 kids enough time to get into a flow. Personally I think Middle school teams should be capped at 12 players max and any other kids should play in a recreational league or form an AAU team if they are good enough. There is a reason there is a cut but development can sometimes not occur with the bottom 5 or 6 kids if they are not getting enough minutes or there isnt enough practice time. That is why I say they should work on their skills to get better outside of school and play on other teams. I honestly don't count on Middle school ball to develop my son, I think its a chance for him to play for his school and friends. This year they have a great coach who is teaching them things they have never been taught but there simply arent enough minutes in a game nor enough Middle school practices to really develop. This is why he plays on off days at the ARmory, plays on an AAU team who also has started to practice and tries to play as much as he can. Blaming a middle school coach for your kid not playing or your kid not making a team is the last thing you should do. Find other ways to get them with a ball in their hands.
January 4, 200917 yr I think it all depends on how many kids are kept on a middle school team. If a school keeps 13-15 kids then there are not enough minutes in a game to get everyone ample playing time to develop. Development should happen in practice as well as on a kids own time. I never had all the fancy camps and AAU and such when I was a kid. I played ball by myself in an alley and worked on my ballhandling, shooting, footwork, etc. Kids and parents need to work on development outside of the regular school team because there just isnt enough time when you have that many kids. With 6 minute quarters if you try to get everyone in the game it doesnt allow the first 7/8 kids enough time to get into a flow. Personally I think Middle school teams should be capped at 12 players max and any other kids should play in a recreational league or form an AAU team if they are good enough. There is a reason there is a cut but development can sometimes not occur with the bottom 5 or 6 kids if they are not getting enough minutes or there isnt enough practice time. That is why I say they should work on their skills to get better outside of school and play on other teams. I honestly don't count on Middle school ball to develop my son, I think its a chance for him to play for his school and friends. This year they have a great coach who is teaching them things they have never been taught but there simply arent enough minutes in a game nor enough Middle school practices to really develop. This is why he plays on off days at the ARmory, plays on an AAU team who also has started to practice and tries to play as much as he can. Blaming a middle school coach for your kid not playing or your kid not making a team is the last thing you should do. Find other ways to get them with a ball in their hands. More development happens in the driveway than on/in the gym. Most kids that have any background in organized basketball know what they need to work on to get more playing time...pending how their school coaches run their offenses and defenses. Personally speaking, most of the middle school kids need to stop practicing shooting the 3 and figure out how to play "D"
January 4, 200917 yr More development happens in the driveway than on/in the gym. Most kids that have any background in organized basketball know what they need to work on to get more playing time...pending how their school coaches run their offenses and defenses. Personally speaking, most of the middle school kids need to stop practicing shooting the 3 and figure out how to play "D" :thumb:Amen! Most kids are never taught the fundamentals of man and are used to playing just zone, that they can't do both. They don't know how to help or deny when their man doesn't have the ball, just as much as playing good on the ball defense.
January 4, 200917 yr More development happens in the driveway than on/in the gym. Most kids that have any background in organized basketball know what they need to work on to get more playing time...pending how their school coaches run their offenses and defenses. Personally speaking, most of the middle school kids need to stop practicing shooting the 3 and figure out how to play "D" I agree. As far as playing time, I always tell my players, you give me 100% in practice and you will see the floor. However I do believe this is the time where they began to realize roles on a team and where they are within a team concept. I do not believe in equal playing time at this stage. And I do believe the idea of playing to win the game should be introduced. It is time for these players to realize that there is a reason they play the amount of time they do, and work on improving themselves. You wait to frosh year and it will be a harsh reality for players and parents.
January 4, 200917 yr [/b] I agree. As far as playing time, I always tell my players, you give me 100% in practice and you will see the floor. However I do believe this is the time where they began to realize roles on a team and where they are within a team concept. I do not believe in equal playing time at this stage. And I do believe the idea of playing to win the game should be introduced. It is time for these players to realize that there is a reason they play the amount of time they do, and work on improving themselves. You wait to frosh year and it will be a harsh reality for players and parents. Its what I've been saying for 2 yrs now. Kids cant get into the flow of the game if they are being taken out every 3 minutes. If kids want to play they need to "run through a wall" so to speak when they are practicing or getting minutes in a game. Coaches definitely notice those things. As far as getting better outside the gym I totally agree. I keep beating into my son's head that you can develop one-one moves without a man guarding you. Just hit the driveway and start being creative with the ball. Heck go to the basement and turn the lights out and start dribbling just do something other then plug in the Xbox.
January 5, 200917 yr Its what I've been saying for 2 yrs now. Kids cant get into the flow of the game if they are being taken out every 3 minutes. If kids want to play they need to "run through a wall" so to speak when they are practicing or getting minutes in a game. Coaches definitely notice those things. As far as getting better outside the gym I totally agree. I keep beating into my son's head that you can develop one-one moves without a man guarding you. Just hit the driveway and start being creative with the ball. Heck go to the basement and turn the lights out and start dribbling just do something other then plug in the Xbox. AMEN!!!!:ylsuper:
January 5, 200917 yr Highlands 8th has a big week of games. Mon- @R.A Jones Tues- Sharp (home) Wed-1st round of St. Thomas Tourney vs. St. Pius. If they win they play Fri night.
January 5, 200917 yr Summit View has Blessed Sacrament on Tuesday at their place (Sportsville, I'm guessing?) and that's it for the week.
January 5, 200917 yr Author A ball and a couple of chairs work wonders in the driveway! At least they did 25 years ago! Kids today think they have to be in an air conditioned gym.
January 5, 200917 yr A ball and a couple of chairs work wonders in the driveway! At least they did 25 years ago! Kids today think they have to be in an air conditioned gym. Yep...the old cane bottom chairs! Depending if you lived in the country or town the goal was nailed on the barn or garage! :thumb: I love the old fashion way EARN it....Why play a player over another when the one only picks up a ball a week before try outs. The other player works on his game 4 to 8 months out of year.:thumb:
January 5, 200917 yr Yep...the old cane bottom chairs! Depending if you lived in the country or town the goal was nailed on the barn or garage! :thumb: I love the old fashion way EARN it....Why play a player over another when the one only picks up a ball a week before try outs. The other player works on his game 4 to 8 months out of year.:thumb: Now I was a city slicker but we had alleys all through town and we spent countless hours building our own goal with wood and screws. You hear of any kids doing stuff like this today? Let me know. LOL
January 5, 200917 yr Author I worked on my game alot at the old Bush High School and also on a garage in downtown Pittsburg (suburb of London, Ky.). I used cain bottom chairs and a red, white, and blue rubber basketball.
January 5, 200917 yr Highlands 8th has a big week of games. Mon- @R.A Jones Tues- Sharp (home) Wed-1st round of St. Thomas Tourney vs. St. Pius. If they win they play Fri night. Add to this the Birds will play Holmes in Covington on Sat morning. Hopefully they will have rested legs for this one as the Bulldogs love to press.
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