50 miles? How far out do "US waters" reach?

12 miles

Good to see you back around, OR! It's always good to debate with you. :thumb:

 

Who do we blame for term one of Pres. Bush's presidency, when republicans controlled both the presidency and the legislature?

 

That's a good point, although my guess is that since neither party has had a super majority in years it's been pretty standard operating procedure for the minority party to hold up legislation. They're both pretty darn good at it. Sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes not.

Gonna be a long recession with 4.00 gas for the next 18 months

This from another thread:

 

Separately, Democrats also failed to get Republican support for a proposal to extend tax breaks for wind, solar and other alternative energy development, and for the promotion of energy efficiency and conservation. The tax breaks have either expired or are scheduled to end this year.

 

Let's see - the Dems won't allow drilling in coastal waters; while the Republicans won't extend tax breaks to those developing alternatives to fossil fuels.

 

Looks like there's plenty of blame to go around.

This from another thread:

 

Separately, Democrats also failed to get Republican support for a proposal to extend tax breaks for wind, solar and other alternative energy development, and for the promotion of energy efficiency and conservation. The tax breaks have either expired or are scheduled to end this year.

 

Let's see - the Dems won't allow drilling in coastal waters; while the Republicans won't extend tax breaks to those developing alternatives to fossil fuels.

 

Looks like there's plenty of blame to go around.

 

Finally! A voice of reason. :thumb:

This from another thread:

 

Separately, Democrats also failed to get Republican support for a proposal to extend tax breaks for wind, solar and other alternative energy development, and for the promotion of energy efficiency and conservation. The tax breaks have either expired or are scheduled to end this year.

 

Let's see - the Dems won't allow drilling in coastal waters; while the Republicans won't extend tax breaks to those developing alternatives to fossil fuels.

 

Looks like there's plenty of blame to go around.

 

Yep, sounds like the two plans combined would be pretty good. Who'd have thunk it?

Yep, sounds like the two plans combined would be pretty good. Who'd have thunk it?

 

That's my thought process, ease our dependency on foreign oil while giving incentives to find alternative sources that will be cleaner and more easily renewable.

How does it solve the problem to continue feeding the monster. The hunger will never be sated.

 

The question is how do we cut our dependence on oil period, not just foreign oil and . . .

 

New drilling in the US NOW will not bring down oil prices. Why drill if we are hoping to ween ourselves of our dependency

 

Everyone should learn to ride a bicycle.

Everyone should learn to ride a bicycle.

 

Depending on how far you live from work, you might have to get really good at riding!

50 miles? How far out do "US waters" reach?

The international border is at 12 miles, but every nation has a Exclusive Economic Zone that stretches out to 200 miles. Sometimes zones overlap and the nations have to work it out.

If you don't feed the monster, the monster will eat you.

 

The more you feed it, the bigger it grows.

 

Because of rising gas prices, FINALLY the Ford F150 is no longer the best selling American vehicle. People have moved away from SUVs that they don't need but that bring status. Why do rich soccer moms need an H2?

 

I have an Odyssey and I am looking at a hybrid Highlander with the 3rd row seat b/c I haul a bunch of kids around. Without the soaring prices I would not be bothered by my 20 mpg.

 

As long as Americans are comfortable with the price of oil there will be no incentive to go after alternative fuel sources. It is only when it becomes uncomfortable that we do something about it.

The more you feed it, the bigger it grows.

 

Because of rising gas prices, FINALLY the Ford F150 is no longer the best selling American vehicle. People have moved away from SUVs that they don't need but that bring status. Why do rich soccer moms need an H2?

 

I have an Odyssey and I am looking at a hybrid Highlander with the 3rd row seat b/c I haul a bunch of kids around. Without the soaring prices I would not be bothered by my 20 mpg.

 

As long as Americans are comfortable with the price of oil there will be no incentive to go after alternative fuel sources. It is only when it becomes uncomfortable that we do something about it.

 

Because they have the money to, and they want to?

You have to remember that we're not just talking gasoline. We're talking diesel fuel for trucks, ships and trains, jet fuel, asphalt, heating oil, LP gas, lubricants, tar, plastics, and even some drugs.

Because they have the money to, and they want to?

 

Thank you for making my point. As long as it is not hurting their pocketbook there is no incentive to look for an alternative.

 

The big three should have been making more fuel efficient cars but they weren't and Japan passed them up with their work on efficiency.

Thank you for making my point. As long as it is not hurting their pocketbook there is no incentive to look for an alternative.

The big three should have been making more fuel efficient cars but they weren't and Japan passed them up with their work on efficiency.

 

Agreed. I love the free market. Guess what? Those Democrats sure love tariffs, quotas, and other things that hinder free trade. You think those Japanese cars, bought for the efficiency, would have made it to the market with some big time taxes on imports? No way.

 

Say it with me. In the Free Market we trust. I'm telling you, alternative fuels will come when alternative fuels are practical. I want more drilling and I want tax credits for alternative fuel research. I want both sides to make concessions.