April 3, 200818 yr Have you ever been to a Giants game, in Giants stadium? I have. I know others who have. End of story. Nice try. Thank you, come again.:lol: BTW, I've never said that all Giants fans are great. That is stupid to think. I'm simply saying that Giants fans are generally not that bad to be around. Not nearly as bad as some other teams. I've talked to more than a few Eagles fans and Cowboys fans on message boards who have had no problems at Giants stadium. Sure seems that way from all the well-researched examples you're providing. Bottom line is this is NYC fans we're talking about, the same ones who invented the battery toss and the beer toss. You're just seeing and hearing what you choose to w/re to your beloved Giants fans. I can't imagine why anyone would wear an opposing team's jersey to another team's stadium and not expect harsh treatment from the home fans.
April 3, 200818 yr Sure seems that way from all the well-researched examples you're providing. Bottom line is this is NYC fans we're talking about, the same ones who invented the battery toss and the beer toss. You're just seeing and hearing what you choose to w/re to your beloved Giants fans. I can't imagine why anyone would wear an opposing team's jersey to another team's stadium and not expect harsh treatment from the home fans. Once again, if you have never been to Giants stadium, don't act like you know what you are talking about. And no, I have NEVER said all Giants fans are nice. But many fans from around the league think so. You are basing your opinion on the theory that all New yorkers are jerks. I'm basing mine on actually talking to people who have been to games. I realize wearing an opposing jersey will get you some negative attention. However, some teams take it too far and are far worse than other teams. Why some people don't want to admit that, I don't know.
April 3, 200818 yr I like you a lot but your biase toward NY is as bad as I've seen for anybody and their team. 50,000 New Yorkers sober are bad enough. Now get them drunk and walk in with a rivals jersey on. That's fine if you feel that way. I don't! I agree that some will be bad, but the majority are not. I was there, I think I would have noticed. I've been their twice. Rivals might be different. But I wasn't wearing a rivals jersey in Cincy and they were mostly ignorant jerks. In Atlanta and Tennessee I had ZERO problems. I think it's just the fact that Cincy's fans are jerks. Quit making claims about Giants fans if you've never been to a game there. It's just an accusation with nothing at all to back it up.
April 3, 200818 yr I've had the opportunity (through my job) to visit stadiums around the country and meet many thousands of fans. It's true that there are good fans and bad fans everywhere. But I have to say, NY fans, and especially NY Giants fans, are by a very long shot, the worst of all for bad behavior. It's not even a contest. You would not believe the things I've seen up there. Philadelphia fans aren't much better. So far, I haven't had a bad experience at a Bengals game. Giants fans are worse than Eagles fans? Is that why the Eagles had a jail in their old stadium? I can see some Giants fans being bad, but I've talked to more than a few people who have never had a problem with Giant fans.
April 3, 200818 yr I love it when other places/people support what I say by saying the exact same thing. About Giants fans... This is a "knowledgeable" group, "very discriminating" in their support." "When the team is doing well the cheers are deafening; when the team falters, the boos are not far behind." "The fans are VERY vocal with how they feel about the players and the team;" "they will not tolerate a half effort," not with an "entire stadium filled with season ticket-holders who pass their tickets down generations." While that fosters an atmosphere in which some have known their fellow ticket-holders "since my dad first brought me as a little kid," it also means "the crowd can skew old, which, in turn, makes it kind of quiet." And if you've "had season tickets since Christ was born," you, too, might "just want to watch the game" instead of "standing up and cheering the team on." That has left some of the Giants' newer generation of fans opining "the stadium would be a harder place for visiting teams to play if we had newer fans." Vociferous or not, there's little debate that "win or lose, Giants fans will sell the stadium out." "Both sides of the extreme are represented here, from those who come with a standard grill" to "quite a few motorhomes, as well." "Every tailgate is professionally done; if you tailgate at Giants Stadium, you learned how to do it from your father." The menu is "diverse," ranging from "hamburgers and hot dogs" to "shrimp, lobster and steak." The scene is "rowdy but controlled." Sure, some "burn jerseys of the opposing team every week;" others, though, "drink, eat, toss the football around and give a little guff to opposing fans in a light-hearted manner." "New York attitudes cool off when you're tailgating," and it "starts off by 7 a.m. for a 1 p.m. game." "This year will be a challenge because the Xanadu sports complex" (a developing entertainment complex that will include a new stadium for the Giants and Jets to share) "will surely cut into the available tailgating scene." In addition to the loss of on-site parking spaces, a satellite lot has already been ruled off limits to tailgating. Link about Giants Stadium About Bengals fans... " Cincinnati fans have become, over the past few years, a very loyal bunch -- almost to the extreme. If you're a Bengals fan, that's great; if you support the other team, things can get a bit out of hand." Most appreciate the fact that Bengals fans are generally "united in their overall zaniness" nowadays, in comparison to the 1990s, when the "atmosphere was often, 'Oh, how are we going to blow this game.'" And though some say "you can [now] feel the buzz as soon as you exit the highway," many find the crowd "very rude and foul-mouthed." "There are a lot of individuals who don't have any regard for little kids, cursing the opposing team and any fans of that team who happen to be sitting in the area." "Fans seem to feel they are owed something". In response, the team has begun operating a "JERK hotline, a phone number you can call and alert security about a problem in the stands. If they find the people too rude, they will kick them out." link
April 3, 200818 yr It's generally accepted Philly has the most vile fans. I mean they booed SANTA CLAUS! That said bad fans are everywhere and outlawing alcohol doesn't solve the problem. They don't sell beer at NCAA events and I've witnessed many MANY jerks in and around Commonwealth Stadium.
April 3, 200818 yr I love it when other places/people support what I say by saying the exact same thing. Wow, you've been vindicated by one whole person's opinion. :lol:
April 3, 200818 yr Wow, you've been vindicated by one whole person's opinion. :lol: Better than basing an opinion on assumptions made by someone who's never been to particular stadium, no? And I guess I could get all of my friends who have been to Giants games in New york or Bengals games in Cincy to join up too...but most of them don't want to join a message board that badly.:lol:
April 3, 200818 yr Wow, you've been vindicated by one whole person's opinion. :lol: I found this in the "What do you think?" section where fans make comments. The one thing that is missing from the criteria here is fan behavior... some of these venues (e.g. the Bengal's Paul Brown stadium) are not places that you would ever want to bring your kids to see a game. Bengal fan here. Games I have went to outside of Cincinnati (I am from New Jersey). Giants Stadium (Numerous times): Bengals don't play the Giants much, but saw them there in 1994 and 1997 plus I live in Giants/Jets land. Stadium does suck and is a pain to get too and the food totally doesn't reflect the great food in NJ/NYC. The fans are great though. Talked to a lot of fans b/c I was wearing my Jeff Blake jersey. They genuinely felt bad for me and other Bengal fans since at that time they were struggling and had been for years. Giants won both games, but they were close. They were actually impressed with the Bengals. I only went a couple of pages in and found those...
April 3, 200818 yr I agree that some will be bad, but the majority are not. I was there, I think I would have noticed. I've been their twice. Rivals might be different. But I wasn't wearing a rivals jersey in Cincy and they were mostly ignorant jerks. In Atlanta and Tennessee I had ZERO problems. I think it's just the fact that Cincy's fans are jerks. Quit making claims about Giants fans if you've never been to a game there. It's just an accusation with nothing at all to back it up. It's NY! I had a best friend that coached Pro ball in NY. It doesn't take a brain child to know what New Yorkers act like sober. You think they get better drunk at an NFL game? Now have somebody wear an opposing jersey there:lol: I understand what you are saying about some places being better than others. I agree that my experiences at Cincy have had some idiodic fans and when I was in Tenn they were boring. We also sat real high at the Cincy games and almost on the field at Tenn. (I think that had a lot to do with it too). Overall my trips to Nashville in general has been more tame folks than Tenn. Do I doubt there are a bunch of idiots in Nashville... NO! To think that there aren't plenty of idiodic drunk fans in NY is absurd! IMO any adult fan that is dumb enough to wear an opposing jersey into a rivals stadium is asking for trouble and I don't have a lot of sympathy for them. Little kids is another story IMO. I understand what you are saying about different places being different. Cincy is bad IMO. I just think you are a little blinded about being a GMan fan. New Yorkers are New Yorkers. Drunk New Yorkers are rough. Drunk New Yorkers with an opposing fan wearing their teams jersey isn't going to be a pleasant experience IMO. We're not going to agree and that's OK. It is a problem with kids around IMO.
April 3, 200818 yr You can find something on any teams fans. September 22, 2005: Several Giants fans spewed New Orleans Saints fans with taunts about Hurricane Katrina during a game at Giants Stadium. "Where's your swimmies? I hope you have your swimmies!" one fan asked a New Orleans resident. "You deserve what you got," another said. "New Orleans people are stupid."[/Quote] All teams have a few bad fans.
April 3, 200818 yr I've had the opportunity (through my job) to visit stadiums around the country and meet many thousands of fans. It's true that there are good fans and bad fans everywhere. But I have to say, NY fans, and especially NY Giants fans, are by a very long shot, the worst of all for bad behavior. It's not even a contest. You would not believe the things I've seen up there. Philadelphia fans aren't much better. So far, I haven't had a bad experience at a Bengals game.I used to live there and was actually a fan; but I totally agree. Giants fans are the absolute worst!
April 3, 200818 yr All teams have a few bad fans. When have I said otherwise? Just some (Cincinnati) have more than others.
April 3, 200818 yr Just some (Cincinnati) have more than others.Maybe you just "attract" this type of person...for some reason.
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