What's the Deal With Anthony Allen?

[DADDY CAT]

UofL will not let Allen go to any school on their schedule OR ARKANSAS. We (UK) tried this same thing with Marvin Stone in basketball when he wanted to transfer to UofL and Pitino and all we got was gruff about how wrong it was to block the student athlete, how we were just being petty, etcetera and et al.

Now UofL is doing it and it's just FINE?????

 

What gives?

 

Same circumstances as Stone, just a different sport and a different school involved.

Allen should get the courts involved, or at least the court threat involved, just as Stone did and transfer anywhere he wants.

"Do as I say, Not as I Do" should be the new school motto at Uof L.

[RockPride]

Stone was dismissed from the team...and Tubby made a call that he felt was right. With Petrino's history, and with Allen's behavior this season, I feel that Louisville is making the dead on right call, for what's best for the University of Louisville. This is another example of how our young men need to realize that they are SIGNING a CONTRACT with a UNIVERSITY, not a coach.

[00Rocket28]

Stone was dismissed from the team...and Tubby made a call that he felt was right. With Petrino's history, and with Allen's behavior this season, I feel that Louisville is making the dead on right call, for what's best for the University of Louisville. This is another example of how our young men need to realize that they are SIGNING a CONTRACT with a UNIVERSITY, not a coach.

 

GARBAGE! Whats the difference in what he's doing and what Mallett is doing at UM? If you dont fit in the system any longer, why would you risk possibly going to the NFL for what? School Pride? Give me a break, UL are hypocrits and need to let that kid go whereever he wants, I can see blocking him from going within conferance, but going to Arkansas isn't going to hurt anyone, its just UL being a jilted scorned lover...

[bugatti]

Stone was dismissed from the team...and Tubby made a call that he felt was right. With Petrino's history, and with Allen's behavior this season, I feel that Louisville is making the dead on right call, for what's best for the University of Louisville. This is another example of how our young men need to realize that they are SIGNING a CONTRACT with a UNIVERSITY, not a coach.

What does UL gain by not allowing him to transfer to Arkansas? Other than a moral victory against Petrino. Even then, why would UL be upset with Petrino?

[Hatz]

Stone was dismissed from the team...and Tubby made a call that he felt was right. With Petrino's history, and with Allen's behavior this season, I feel that Louisville is making the dead on right call, for what's best for the University of Louisville. This is another example of how our young men need to realize that they are SIGNING a CONTRACT with a UNIVERSITY, not a coach.

 

I have to respectfully disagree on this one RockPride. It just seems very hypocrticial. But it's not like UL is the only hypocrite. So many of the other schools (including UK) have acted like this and it gets old. I can see blocking a kid from a fellow conference school but the line has to end there.

[hokiefromky]

...but going to Arkansas isn't going to hurt anyone, its just UL being a jilted scorned lover...

 

It's actually UofL trying to make sure there won't be a mass exodus of other players following suit and heading to play with the coach that recruited them.

 

I don't agree with it, but I totally understand why UofL is trying to stop something that may have larger consequences down the road.

[PepRock01]

It's actually UofL trying to make sure there won't be a mass exodus of other players following suit and heading to play with the coach that recruited them.

 

I don't agree with it, but I totally understand why UofL is trying to stop something that may have larger consequences down the road.

 

 

This my thought on the matter as well.

 

I also don't think any fan of UL or UK in this state really has the high ground to call one or the other hypocrites.

[bugatti]

It's actually UofL trying to make sure there won't be a mass exodus of other players following suit and heading to play with the coach that recruited them.

 

I don't agree with it, but I totally understand why UofL is trying to stop something that may have larger consequences down the road.

 

I am not sure, but is it common practice to deny kids transfers to wherever their coach goes (besides within conference)? Will WVU reject transfers to Michigan? I know in basketball it happens (eg. Vaden to UAB).

 

If it is common practice, I understand and do not have a problem with it.

[mobaar]

I really don't get how schools can block transfers anyway. Will somebody fill me in?

 

Why can't I drop out of a school, enroll at any other one, sit out my year, and then play for the new school?

[hardball]

It's actually UofL trying to make sure there won't be a mass exodus of other players following suit and heading to play with the coach that recruited them.

 

I don't agree with it, but I totally understand why UofL is trying to stop something that may have larger consequences down the road.

 

If you want to delve a little deeper, it's actually Jurich's (and the UL administration's) lack of faith and belief that Krag and staff can get the job done.

 

Think about it, if you're worried about players leaving after having a year to become assimilated with the coaching staff and system, it means either your coaching staff, or system, is broken. This tells me that UL is worried about a mass exodus, and that isn't good from any viewpoint.

[woodsrider]

I really don't get how schools can block transfers anyway. Will somebody fill me in?

 

Why can't I drop out of a school, enroll at any other one, sit out my year, and then play for the new school?

This was my thougth as well. I thought as long as you sat out your year you could go where you wanted.

 

Just because you agree to play at certain school doesn't mean that school owns you.

[SLINK]

The players ought to be able to transfer anywhere as long as they follow the transfer guidelines set forth by the NCAA.

[tcjkbt]

If players want to transfer but are contractually obligated to stay with their present school, how effective will they be anyway? Seems like team chemistry would take a big hit. Let them go and then get new kids in who want to be there. Better living through chemistry.

[Crazed 15th]

How can you keep a player who signs a LOI to play at a school from transfering if they want? Contracts don't keep coaches from leaving when a better spot is open. Why do we hold young men who have their whole life ahead of them to a diffrent standard than the people we hire to guide them? Seems like a load of hog-wash on part of UofL administration as well as any other party involved (NCAA). Any young person should be allowed to attone for a mistake, including signing with a school that he/she is unhappy at.

 

(I'm not picking on UofL here because I thought the Stone ordeal with my Wildcats was hog-wash as well)

[DADDY CAT]

Stone was dismissed from the team...and Tubby made a call that he felt was right. With Petrino's history, and with Allen's behavior this season, I feel that Louisville is making the dead on right call, for what's best for the University of Louisville. This is another example of how our young men need to realize that they are SIGNING a CONTRACT with a UNIVERSITY, not a coach.

 

SO, what you are saying is that COACHES should abide by contracts, too, for they sign with the university and none sign contracts that say "until something better comes along"? IF a LOI or Contract is expected to be honored whole heartedly by the kid but not the coach, it's still wrong. If the coaches can leave, the kids can leave. What UofL is pulling is pure crap. They called crap on it when UK did it, now the ball's in their court and they are pulling the same thing.

 

(I just looked outside and saw an American flag and not a North Korean flag, so I am guessing the freedoms we have in choice and so forth are still in effect.)

 

If a kid's not happy or wants to follow the coach and is willing to sit out the year, let him go. UK fought Stone, but Stone got what he wanted in Louisville, so this kid deserves that same chance. As the paper said today, how big was the runoff to UofL from UK when Stone got to go? NO ONE ELSE!

 

This will all end in court and the kid will go where he wants.