December 18, 200718 yr Madduxace - your stats are meaningless to the point that its easier RIGHT NOW to win the Big 10 than it is the SEC. TODAY in the Big 10 there are OSU/Michigan and everyone else. Essentially, its a 2-team race. In the SEC, you have LSU, Florida, Auburn, and UGA plus UT not to mention teams like UK, Bama, Arkansas and SC that you have to play each week. Add in that you then have to play a conference championship game , one more against a Top 10 opponent, and its not very hard to understand which conference is harder to win.
December 18, 200718 yr The hiring of Ron Zook at Illinois and now Rich Rodriguez at Michigan is the beginning of a big change in the Big Ten Conference. Speed, speed, speed. Spread, spread, spread. It is about time and it is beginning to happen as we speak. The day of big, slow football teams in the Big Ten is fading. I feel like there is a bad misconception about the speed at places such as Ohio St. and Michigan, they have as much or more speed than 98% of all the Div-1 teams.
December 18, 200718 yr Madduxace - your stats are meaningless to the point that its easier RIGHT NOW to win the Big 10 than it is the SEC. TODAY in the Big 10 there are OSU/Michigan and everyone else. Essentially, its a 2-team race. In the SEC, you have LSU, Florida, Auburn, and UGA plus UT not to mention teams like UK, Bama, Arkansas and SC that you have to play each week. Add in that you then have to play a conference championship game , one more against a Top 10 opponent, and its not very hard to understand which conference is harder to win. I will get off my soap box after this as I now realize that no matter what facts are put up SEC fans will always believe what they want. The Big ten really does have a conference championship it is called OSU Mich which by the way is played at the end of the year for a reason. In all honesty it would be better for both teams to play earlier on, however the Big Ten stands for tradition and it will always be played last. To say the Big Ten is a two team race is flat out dumb. Last year the Big Ten# 3 Wisconson beat the SEC Runner-up , Penn St. Big Ten#4 beat Tennessee ( In all honesty do not remeber where they finished) And I will end on this: All I hear is complaints about how tough an SEC championship game is for these teams. If it was not for this game that you guys complain about you would have been shut out of the NC last year, and this year. I would say that is a bonus not a hinder.
December 18, 200718 yr I will get off my soap box after this as I now realize that no matter what facts are put up SEC fans will always believe what they want. The Big ten really does have a conference championship it is called OSU Mich which by the way is played at the end of the year for a reason. In all honesty it would be better for both teams to play earlier on, however the Big Ten stands for tradition and it will always be played last. To say the Big Ten is a two team race is flat out dumb. Last year the Big Ten# 3 Wisconson beat the SEC Runner-up , Penn St. Big Ten#4 beat Tennessee ( In all honesty do not remeber where they finished) And I will end on this: All I hear is complaints about how tough an SEC championship game is for these teams. If it was not for this game that you guys complain about you would have been shut out of the NC last year, and this year. I would say that is a bonus not a hinder. You say: "The Big ten really does have a conference championship it is called OSU Mich which by the way is played at the end of the year for a reason." Then you say: "To say the Big Ten is a two team race is flat out dumb." Now that is the contradiction of all contradictions! Please don't get off your soap box yet. With all the statistical information on the Big Ten that you have at your fingertips, I am asking you to find the Big Ten's bowl record against the SEC in, say, the last ten years. I don't know the exact figures, but I guarantee it is very poor. You are very much contradicting yourself!
December 18, 200718 yr You say: "The Big ten really does have a conference championship it is called OSU Mich which by the way is played at the end of the year for a reason." Then you say: "To say the Big Ten is a two team race is flat out dumb." Now that is the contradiction of all contradictions! Please don't get off your soap box yet. With all the statistical information on the Big Ten that you have at your fingertips, I am asking you to find the Big Ten's bowl record against the SEC in, say, the last ten years. I don't know the exact figures, but I guarantee it is very poor. You are very much contradicting yourself! Actually read some posts and you will have the answer to your questions. But then again nobody wants to hear facts against the almighty and they won't read them.13-13 not as poor as you thought, but then again the SEC is not as good as you think. I am not saying it is bad because that is simply not true, it is just not as good as most think!
December 18, 200718 yr The Big ten really does have a conference championship it is called OSU Mich which by the way is played at the end of the year for a reason. Game, set, match. Should probably rename the conference the Big 2 + the insignificant 9.
December 18, 200718 yr Game, set, match. Should probably rename the conference the Big 2 + the insignificant 9. Part of the insignificant nine beat the runner-up and one of the elite in SEC in last years bowl game.
December 18, 200718 yr Madduxace - your stats are meaningless to the point that its easier RIGHT NOW to win the Big 10 than it is the SEC. TODAY in the Big 10 there are OSU/Michigan and everyone else. Essentially, its a 2-team race. In the SEC, you have LSU, Florida, Auburn, and UGA plus UT not to mention teams like UK, Bama, Arkansas and SC that you have to play each week. Add in that you then have to play a conference championship game , one more against a Top 10 opponent, and its not very hard to understand which conference is harder to win. Thanks cshs81...that was my whole point...without saying as much. They don't have a championship game to play in. Was not meant as a shot at Michigan.
December 18, 200718 yr I will get off my soap box after this as I now realize that no matter what facts are put up SEC fans will always believe what they want. The Big ten really does have a conference championship it is called OSU Mich which by the way is played at the end of the year for a reason. In all honesty it would be better for both teams to play earlier on, however the Big Ten stands for tradition and it will always be played last. To say the Big Ten is a two team race is flat out dumb. Last year the Big Ten# 3 Wisconson beat the SEC Runner-up , Penn St. Big Ten#4 beat Tennessee ( In all honesty do not remeber where they finished) And I will end on this: All I hear is complaints about how tough an SEC championship game is for these teams. If it was not for this game that you guys complain about you would have been shut out of the NC last year, and this year. I would say that is a bonus not a hinder. LSU was the second best team as shown by their BCS appearance not Arkansas.
December 18, 200718 yr Thanks cshs81...that was my whole point...without saying as much. They don't have a championship game to play in. Was not meant as a shot at Michigan. What BCS school do you propose they steal to have a title game? Do you split UM and OSU when you have to divide in to 6 team splits? Blast the Big 11 for being average of late. Fair game. The conference title game talk is a joke...
December 18, 200718 yr Hum, not sure why. Copy this into your address bar. http://fastandfuriousfootball.com/CollegeOffense/2005_Univ_of_West_Virginia_Offense.pdf Pretty neat to look at, even if it is dated a bit.
December 18, 200718 yr LSU was the second best team as shown by their BCS appearance not Arkansas. If you are going to back a conference title game, you can NOT use what the cash cow Bowl games want despite results...
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