I know in the 16th, it seems like a lot of fans know a lot of officials names.

I don't like when fans call them by their names but in small areas it is going to happen and also a lot of high school refs do multiple sports.

Also the ones who don't know the rules scream the loudest.

 

Ain't it the truth!!!

...Also the ones who don't know the rules scream the loudest.

I agree and often, other fans who truly don't know some/all the Rules, begin yelling and complaining, because they see all the diatribe spewing from another fan....they think he knows the Rules.

 

At least you didn't bring out the ole ball bat to convince me I'm wrong.

....Don't turn around.

 

:lol:

As a fan, the only things that are acceptable IMO is boo'ing, which is really harmless and asking, without yelling about a call or rule. As long as the fan is non-confrontational I would think that most officials would not have a problem explaining a rule or maybe even a call, after all the less people boo'ing the better...

 

A coach can yell but if he loses focus on the game or his team, that's his fault...

 

Obscenities, name calling, threats...etc are unacceptable...

 

I have no problem with , "Come on, Tom!"

As a fan, the only things that are acceptable IMO is boo'ing, which is really harmless and asking, without yelling about a call or rule. As long as the fan is non-confrontational I would think that most officials would not have a problem explaining a rule or maybe even a call, after all the less people boo'ing the better...

 

A coach can yell but if he loses focus on the game or his team, that's his fault...

 

Obscenities, name calling, threats...etc are unacceptable...

 

I have no problem with , "Come on, Tom!"

 

A favorite story from years ago, from an interview with Peter Falk in TV Guide.

 

Falk was playing a baseball game; slid into home plate and was called out. Whereupon Falk removed his glass eye, handed it to the ump and said, "Here, you need this more than I do."

 

Not sure if that crosses the line or not...

A favorite story from years ago, from an interview with Peter Falk in TV Guide.

 

Falk was playing a baseball game; slid into home plate and was called out. Whereupon Falk removed his glass eye, handed it to the ump and said, "Here, you need this more than I do."

 

Not sure if that crosses the line or not...

 

It may cross the line, but that is funny!

As a fan in attendance at a game, you have every right to boo an official for what you feel to be a bad call. Anything other than that is not acceptable. Officials do not have to justify anything to a fan, just to the coaches and players on the field.

 

(This sort of borders on a mini pet-peeve of mine: I realize that in most cases, chain crews at HSFB games are made up of parents and or boosters who volunteer their time to help out, but that doesn't give them the right to get in the officials ear either. You are there to do a job, shut the yap and do it.)

I have seen a member of chain gang get thrown out of a high school football game.

As a fan in attendance at a game, you have every right to boo an official for what you feel to be a bad call. Anything other than that is not acceptable. Officials do not have to justify anything to a fan, just to the coaches and players on the field.

 

(This sort of borders on a mini pet-peeve of mine: I realize that in most cases, chain crews at HSFB games are made up of parents and or boosters who volunteer their time to help out, but that doesn't give them the right to get in the officials ear either. You are there to do a job, shut the yap and do it.)

 

I would have thought the chain gang would be like the scoreboard operator and book person in basketball. Not allowed to make comments or cheer from the scorer's table.

I agree with 99% of your post. Well done! However, I have seen some parents/fans at little league games, very politely ask officials after a game about a call/rule. Often, the parent/fan did not understand the rule and appreciate getting a straight answer. I think in that instance, I have no problem with a fan asking about a call if handled in the correct manner.

 

I think boo'ing and general disagreement with a call is acceptable. But once it goes past that, I don't think that is acceptable. The play is over or dead, and time to move on.

 

IMO, only the coaches should be allowed to ask the official any questions regarding the call after a game. I think that increases the chance for things to escalate. Not saying that they will, but if one person can calmly ask a question, that gives the chance for a person who won't be as civil to approach and discuss. And I have seen sports bring out the absolute worst behavior in ordinary people.

 

Also this gives a negative impression of all fans from that certain team. And as much as I hate to say it and see it, that overshadows all the athletes work.

They are fare game, I throw stuff at them

Just curious how much you think should be expected and what is crossing the line? Here are a few of my thoughts on this after some recent instances I have become aware of:

 

- I think it is okay for a fan to boo what you believe is a bad call. That's just being a fan.

- I think that calling an official by name and accusing them of cheating is over the line. Call a spade a spade. Some refs do cheat. When you see them do it, call them on it.

- I think swearing is over the line I agree.

- I think that asking them after a game about a call you don't understand is acceptable

- I think that waiting for them after a game to give them a piece of your mind is over the line Put the last 2 together here. Approaching a ref after a game in a respectful manner is OK. Don't cross the line. Don't threaten a ref. When an adult does your child wrong, the first impulse is to confront that adult. Keep it civil.

 

And in these instances, ... what should an official do? How much of a thick skin do they have to have. Should they take anything said/done as an occupational hazard and go on, or where is the line when they can respond?

 

What say you BGP?

 

 

Refs can't be thin skinned. If you can't take the name calling, then hang up the stripes, zebra.

I disagree with this one. I'm not sure what the issue is of using their name. Also, I've seen games called where all the bad calls go against one team. How can you not think the ref is cheating? Expelling someone for this is just silly.

I agree with this. If the refs sent every parent out that accused them of cheating, they would loose half the crowd.

 

 

I know in the 16th, it seems like a lot of fans know a lot of officials names.

I don't like when fans call them by their names but in small areas it is going to happen and also a lot of high school refs do multiple sports.

Also the ones who don't know the rules scream the loudest.

 

Ref's names and addresses are posted on KHSAA, so anyone could see the referee's names in their district.

 

Why don't referees have to do the same thing that we teach the kids to do, to ignore the crowd and keep their mind on the game. As a former coach, this is something I preached to my players constantly. I think if the referees did this, alot of problems would be solved. I have also refereed before and understand how hard that would be, but I have also been in the roll of a parent and I understand that parents get upset if they think their child is being mistreated.

Refs can't be thin skinned. If you can't take the name calling, then hang up the stripes, zebra.

 

 

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I think you can hollar and scream as much as you want, you paid to get in......

 

BUT, cursing should never be done.

 

I have had people tell me to get in the game, I am missing a good game, etc. That was okay, but when is the ref wrong. After I laid down my whistle, and stopped reffing, I had a official at a basketball game come up to me and tell me he did not choke, he admitted he may have missed the call but maintained that he did not choke. (he had seen me give him the universal choke sign you know hand around my own neck) So did he cross the line, by starting a verbal confrontation?

I have a fair question: how many people walk up to an officiating crew after a game and tell them that they did a great job officiating the game?