August 7, 200719 yr As a memeber of the Baptists church since 1965...Its something at our church that rarely comes up. In fact I cannot remember discussing this. I'll ask around and get some imput.
August 8, 200719 yr Its is true that many Baptists left the ranks of Protestant churches which were doctrinal unsound and apostate. They left these churches because of their strong conviction the Word of God should not be compromised. The way I read that, was that many individual Baptist left protestant groups to join Baptist churches. Not Baptist churchs formed from them. That's just the way I look at it. I could be wrong.
August 8, 200719 yr You asked this before and I answered it in post 21. Baptists are not elitists but merely do not want to be grouped with those who protested against the Catholic Church. I am sorry if you feel this is the intention. We never protested against them because we were never a part of them. However, we suffered much persecution under their hands as well as other protestant groups who came out from them and could not bare the truth of God's Word. Baptist history will reveal this to be case. Even secular historians. I would have to agree that Baptists are not elitists. I've heard them called many uncomplimentary things but certainly never elitists.
August 8, 200719 yr It seems all of our Catholic friends believe Baptist are protestant. I am sure this is what was taught to you in church or at school. . I don't remember ever hearing anything about Protestants or Baptists during any Catholic discussions. Of course, I was a public school kid so maybe I was busy rifling through the Catholic school kid's desks.
August 8, 200719 yr Our best historical evidence says that Baptists came into existence in England in the early seventeenth century. They apparently emerged out of the Puritan-Separatist movement in the Church of England. Some of these earnest people read the Bible in their own language, believed it, and sought to live by it. They formed separate congregations which accepted only believers into their membership, and they baptized converts upon their profession of faith. Their opponents nicknamed them "Baptists," and the name stuck. Wouldn't that make them protesting Protestants? http://www.baptisthistory.org/baptistbeginnings.htm
August 8, 200719 yr Our best historical evidence says that Baptists came into existence in England in the early seventeenth century. They apparently emerged out of the Puritan-Separatist movement in the Church of England. Some of these earnest people read the Bible in their own language, believed it, and sought to live by it. They formed separate congregations which accepted only believers into their membership, and they baptized converts upon their profession of faith. Their opponents nicknamed them "Baptists," and the name stuck. Wouldn't that make them protesting Protestants? http://www.baptisthistory.org/baptistbeginnings.htm That's kind of what I thought from some other things I've read. They're kind of like "Double Protestants."
August 8, 200719 yr That's kind of what I thought from some other things I've read. They're kind of like "Double Protestants." I guess the double protest cancels each other out, and...wait a minute...that means Baptists are really Catholic...:sssh:
August 8, 200719 yr Of course, the only real difference between a Baptist and a Catholic is that the Catholic will speak to you as he leaves the liquor store.
August 8, 200719 yr Of course, the only real difference between a Baptist and a Catholic is that the Catholic will speak to you as he leaves the liquor store. Also a strong possibility that the Catholic owns the liquor store. I attend a Baptist church and I'll greet you everytime I leave the liquor store. I'm in the Liquor Barn in Lexington so much that it probably qualifies as a "vacation home" per IRS guidelines.:thumb:
August 8, 200719 yr Also a strong possibility that the Catholic owns the liquor store. I attend a Baptist church and I'll greet you everytime I leave the liquor store. I'm in the Liquor Barn in Lexington so much that it probably qualifies as a "vacation home" per IRS guidelines.:thumb: I bet you dance too! :eek:
August 9, 200719 yr Kingfish raises a good point... which I amend to include, if you're gonna play golf with a Baptist, take two... one will drink all your beer.
August 9, 200719 yr In whose opinion? I wonder if the name Protestant came about because of protests against Catholics in whenever time period that the term came about. So the Catholics simply labeled everyone that is not them as Protestants? I do not consider myself a Protestant. I consider myself a Christian. That is it. I consider myself the same as a Catholic, a Baptist, a whatever who believes Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior and strives to live their lives in that manner. I agree 100%. I am a Christian and I belong to the church Jesus Christ created while on this earth. I am almost positive that the one and only church (not religion) was created before the catholic religion. If I am wrong please correct me. Uh....I was being sarcastic because everyone knows I am right but I know someone will try to prove otherwise anyhow!
August 9, 200719 yr Something I find interesting: Many of those who are non-Catholic are pretty set on not being labled, and making every effort to explain why they shouldn't be called Protestant. Yet, the same all seem to realize that their denomination somehow either directly or indirectly trace back to the Catholic Church. Interesting.
August 9, 200719 yr Kingfish raises a good point... which I amend to include, if you're gonna play golf with a Baptist, take two... one will drink all your beer. You know I wonder if I ought to feel bad that my pastor told a joke similar to this at the end of mass a few months ago. Only he used going fishing instead of golf. Needless to say, I chuckled. :lol:
August 9, 200719 yr Something I find interesting: Many of those who are non-Catholic are pretty set on not being labled, and making every effort to explain why they shouldn't be called Protestant. Yet, the same all seem to realize that their denomination somehow either directly or indirectly trace back to the Catholic Church. Interesting. I'm curious as to why some people are so vehemently against falling under a label, whether it be under the broad umbrella of Protestant, or a more narrow one of Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, or whatever... It's just not that big of an issue to me. I don't put too much emphasis or stock into it, but at the same time, it's not like it's a curse.
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