August 4, 200719 yr If you're a Christian and you're not a Catholic, then you are a Protestant. Not true. You can also be Orthodox.
August 5, 200719 yr If you are Christian and are not Catholic or Orthodox you are Protestant . That's my thinking too.
August 6, 200719 yr BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS Baptists are not Protestants! The name Protestant was given to those churches which came out of Roman Catholicism during the Reformation which began in the 1500s. It originally applied through the 1700's to Lutherans, and Anglicans. Later Presbyterians, Episcopalians and Methodist were added to the lists of Protestants denominations. Though many people including Webster's Dictionary refers Baptists as being Protestants, it is not correct to refer to them as such or to lump all non-Catholic denominations in one group and label them Protestant. Historically, Baptists were never a part of the Roman Catholic Church or the Protestant Reformation and therefore can not be correctly called "protestors" or Protestants. Its is true that many Baptists left the ranks of Protestant churches which were doctrinal unsound and apostate. They left these churches because of their strong conviction the Word of God should not be compromised. Some formed new churches and called themselves Baptists to make it clear that they believed and followed the New Testament. It is not historically correct to identify Baptists as Catholic "protestors" who left the Roman church. In the many books on church history which make up the bibliography for this paper, there is not one recorded incident of a Baptist church beginning founded out of Roman Catholicism. Protestants for centuries saw the Baptists as their "enemies" and murdered them by the thousands in the name of Protestantism. It is surely an affront to any historically informed Baptist identify him by the name of a group that has so hated and persecuted them down throughout history. There have always existed, from the time of Christ, New Testament churches which were not a part of the Roman Church. In fact the Roman Church can only trace its history back to 313 AD when the Roman Emperor Constantine made Christianity a legal religion.
August 6, 200719 yr Author BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS Baptists are not Protestants! The name Protestant was given to those churches which came out of Roman Catholicism during the Reformation which began in the 1500s. It originally applied through the 1700's to Lutherans, and Anglicans. Later Presbyterians, Episcopalians and Methodist were added to the lists of Protestants denominations. Though many people including Webster's Dictionary refers Baptists as being Protestants, it is not correct to refer to them as such or to lump all non-Catholic denominations in one group and label them Protestant. Historically, Baptists were never a part of the Roman Catholic Church or the Protestant Reformation and therefore can not be correctly called "protestors" or Protestants. Its is true that many Baptists left the ranks of Protestant churches which were doctrinal unsound and apostate. They left these churches because of their strong conviction the Word of God should not be compromised. Some formed new churches and called themselves Baptists to make it clear that they believed and followed the New Testament. It is not historically correct to identify Baptists as Catholic "protestors" who left the Roman church. In the many books on church history which make up the bibliography for this paper, there is not one recorded incident of a Baptist church beginning founded out of Roman Catholicism. Protestants for centuries saw the Baptists as their "enemies" and murdered them by the thousands in the name of Protestantism. It is surely an affront to any historically informed Baptist identify him by the name of a group that has so hated and persecuted them down throughout history. There have always existed, from the time of Christ, New Testament churches which were not a part of the Roman Church. In fact the Roman Church can only trace its history back to 313 AD when the Roman Emperor Constantine made Christianity a legal religion. Amen and Amen!:thumb:
August 6, 200719 yr What difference does it make? Sounds to me like the Baptists are trying to be elitests.
August 6, 200719 yr Author What difference does it make? Sounds to me like the Baptists are trying to be elitests. You asked this before and I answered it in post 21. Baptists are not elitists but merely do not want to be grouped with those who protested against the Catholic Church. I am sorry if you feel this is the intention. We never protested against them because we were never a part of them. However, we suffered much persecution under their hands as well as other protestant groups who came out from them and could not bare the truth of God's Word. Baptist history will reveal this to be case. Even secular historians.
August 7, 200719 yr You asked this before and I answered it in post 21. Baptists are not elitists but merely do not want to be grouped with those who protested against the Catholic Church. I am sorry if you feel this is the intention. We never protested against them because we were never a part of them. However, we suffered much persecution under their hands as well as other protestant groups who came out from them and could not bare the truth of God's Word. What I'm hearing is that you don't want to be grouped in with other Christians. Just one more religous group trying to separate themselves and make them sound like the bigger martyrs and therfore more holy.
August 7, 200719 yr Reminds me of the poll back in the 1970s of the biggest party schools in the nation, and there was an asterisk at #1. Upon reading the fine print, it was revealed that the #1 spot belonged to the University of Kentucky, but they refused to be ranked with amateurs. Not suggesting a direct parallel here, but it does indicate a similar mindset.
August 7, 200719 yr It seems all of our Catholic friends believe Baptist are protestant. I am sure this is what was taught to you in church or at school. That seems to be the position of the Catholic church, "If you are a Christian you are either with us or were at some point against us". This teaching is no different than any religous teaching by any religion in the world. Why do so many muslims think the way they do about Christians / westerners? Because this is the position on their religous teaching. It does not mean it is correct it just the position of the muslim religion. Why do Hindu's worship cows? Because that is what they have always been told. As the previous poster suggested... Originally Posted by Achilles What difference does it make? Sounds to me like the Baptists are trying to be elitests. It sounds to me as if "maybe" the Catholic church may be acting kind of elitest when it comes to this issue. I currently attend a Methodist Church which by all accounts is a protestant church. This does not bother me one way or the other.
August 7, 200719 yr BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS Baptists are not Protestants! The name Protestant was given to those churches which came out of Roman Catholicism during the Reformation which began in the 1500s. It originally applied through the 1700's to Lutherans, and Anglicans. Later Presbyterians, Episcopalians and Methodist were added to the lists of Protestants denominations. Though many people including Webster's Dictionary refers Baptists as being Protestants, it is not correct to refer to them as such or to lump all non-Catholic denominations in one group and label them Protestant. Historically, Baptists were never a part of the Roman Catholic Church or the Protestant Reformation and therefore can not be correctly called "protestors" or Protestants. Its is true that many Baptists left the ranks of Protestant churches which were doctrinal unsound and apostate. They left these churches because of their strong conviction the Word of God should not be compromised. Some formed new churches and called themselves Baptists to make it clear that they believed and followed the New Testament. It is not historically correct to identify Baptists as Catholic "protestors" who left the Roman church. In the many books on church history which make up the bibliography for this paper, there is not one recorded incident of a Baptist church beginning founded out of Roman Catholicism. Protestants for centuries saw the Baptists as their "enemies" and murdered them by the thousands in the name of Protestantism. It is surely an affront to any historically informed Baptist identify him by the name of a group that has so hated and persecuted them down throughout history. There have always existed, from the time of Christ, New Testament churches which were not a part of the Roman Church. In fact the Roman Church can only trace its history back to 313 AD when the Roman Emperor Constantine made Christianity a legal religion. If they branched off from a Protestant group, wouldn't that put them under the Protestant umbrella by default? The Amish broke off from the Mennonites...does that mean they aren't protestant either?
August 7, 200719 yr It seems all of our Catholic friends believe Baptist are protestant.I'm Baptist from birth and believe that Baptists are Protestants.
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