July 7, 200719 yr An Ohio newspaper's decision to publish the non-public records of concealed carry permit holders drew a strong response, and one gun rights advocacy group published personal but public information about the newspaper's editor. The Sandusky Register on June 24 published the names, ages and home counties of the almost 2,700 concealed carry permit holders in its circulation area. Ohio gun laws restrict public access to concealed carry records but allow the media to access them. The printing of the names sparked outrage from gun rights groups, including the Ohioans for Concealed Carry and the National Rifle Association. Critics argue that publishing names and identifying information about concealed carry permit holders puts them at risk being targeted for violence or identity theft. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200707/NAT20070705a.html
July 7, 200719 yr Homelesscamel reported....Ohio gun laws restrict public access to concealed carry records but allow the media to access them. If public access is restricted, then would making this list public not be restricted as well? I think there are grounds for the paper and/or editors to face criminal and civil prosecution.
July 7, 200719 yr An Ohio newspaper's decision to publish the non-public records of concealed carry permit holders drew a strong response, and one gun rights advocacy group published personal but public information about the newspaper's editor. The Sandusky Register on June 24 published the names, ages and home counties of the almost 2,700 concealed carry permit holders in its circulation area. Ohio gun laws restrict public access to concealed carry records but allow the media to access them. The printing of the names sparked outrage from gun rights groups, including the Ohioans for Concealed Carry and the National Rifle Association. Critics argue that publishing names and identifying information about concealed carry permit holders puts them at risk being targeted for violence or identity theft. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200707/NAT20070705a.html Doesn't this law contradict itself? It restricts public access to the records but allows the media. Isn't the media in business to publish things it knows to the public?
July 7, 200719 yr Author Doesn't this law contradict itself? It restricts public access to the records but allows the media. Isn't the media in business to publish things it knows to the public? I was thinking the same thing when I read it. Why not just restrict ANYONE from accessing that information. It's NOBODIES business what someone may or may not have in their home. Especially when the person involved has taken the proper precautions to carry a license for a gun.
July 7, 200719 yr I think that its everyone's right to know if their idiot neighbor has a concealed carry permit .
July 7, 200719 yr I think that its everyone's right to know if their idiot neighbor has a concealed carry permit .Are you suggesting that anyone who owns a gun is an idiot? If the list had been 2,700 known homosexuals, the screams for privacy and expressing outrage at such an invasion of the private affairs of those listed would be 100 times louder... At least we know there's no legitimacy to the claims of liberal bias in the media...
July 7, 200719 yr Are you suggesting that anyone who owns a gun is an idiot? If the list had been 2,700 known homosexuals, the screams for privacy and expressing outrage at such an invasion of the private affairs of those listed would be 100 times louder... At least we know there's no legitimacy to the claims of liberal bias in the media... :ylsuper: :ylsuper: Absolutely 100% correct! The liberal media ( bleeding hearts ) and politicians like Clinton, Edwards, Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Feinstein and Schumer amoung others seem to want to discredit the Constitution of te United States of America. Their agenda is to ban ALL guns, they claim that it is not but that is an out right lie :mad: ! Read some of the descriptions of weapons they want to ban and you will see. Our semi auto shotguns and the like are considered assault weapons according to their standards:rolleyes: . All Law Abiding American Citizens have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms! Period. If a gun causes crime then this keyboard is responsible for typo's, the pencil is the cause of mistakes and ensless other examples. What needs to happen is for these judges to enforce the gun laws already on the books and not be "bought" by certain interest. Put these people away for the full sentences - no paroll, no re hab (what as joke). The old saying is true - If Guns are Outlawed then only outlaws will have guns. Criminals and thugs do not abide by the law, that is why they are called criminals. If they want a gun, they will get it. I pray that I never have to shoot any other human being and I would not unless it was extreme circumstances involving life of myself or a family member but it relates to another saying that I like............."No One Ever Raped A 38" "I Will Give Up My Guns When the Pry My Cold, Dead Hands From Around It!!"
July 7, 200719 yr ^ If there are any typos in my above post...........it is not my fault, this keyboard is to blame.
July 7, 200719 yr I think that its everyone's right to know if their idiot neighbor has a concealed carry permit .So, are they're an idiot because they own a gun or because the have a conceal carry permit? Or is that they're an idiot because they're a law abiding citizen and went about things legally? When will you anti-gun people learn to just mind your own business and leave law abiding citizens alone? :mad:
July 7, 200719 yr I think that its everyone's right to know if their idiot neighbor has a concealed carry permit . Anyone that tries to break into their home, car-jack them or assault a family member of theirs while walking through a shopping mall's parking lot, etc. will probably find out. :sssh: JMO
July 7, 200719 yr So, are they're an idiot because they own a gun or because the have a conceal carry permit? Or is that they're an idiot because they're a law abiding citizen and went about things legally? When will you anti-gun people learn to just mind your own business and leave law abiding citizens alone? :mad: :thumb: :thumb: Great Post RTS!! By the way, is that a pic of Hillary Clintion or Rosie O'Donnell in your avatar?? LOL
July 7, 200719 yr :ylsuper: :ylsuper: Absolutely 100% correct! The liberal media ( bleeding hearts ) and politicians like Clinton, Edwards, Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Feinstein and Schumer amoung others seem to want to discredit the Constitution of te United States of America. Their agenda is to ban ALL guns, they claim that it is not but that is an out right lie :mad: ! Read some of the descriptions of weapons they want to ban and you will see. Our semi auto shotguns and the like are considered assault weapons according to their standards:rolleyes: . All Law Abiding American Citizens have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms! Period. If a gun causes crime then this keyboard is responsible for typo's, the pencil is the cause of mistakes and ensless other examples. What needs to happen is for these judges to enforce the gun laws already on the books and not be "bought" by certain interest. Put these people away for the full sentences - no paroll, no re hab (what as joke). The old saying is true - If Guns are Outlawed then only outlaws will have guns. Criminals and thugs do not abide by the law, that is why they are called criminals. If they want a gun, they will get it. I pray that I never have to shoot any other human being and I would not unless it was extreme circumstances involving life of myself or a family member but it relates to another saying that I like............."No One Ever Raped A 38" "I Will Give Up My Guns When the Pry My Cold, Dead Hands From Around It!!" Excellent post.
July 7, 200719 yr I wonder what would happen if the published list revealed 2,700 women chose to have an abortion in the past 12 months?
July 7, 200719 yr What a joke, the anit-gun left trying to deter people from obtaining conceal carry permits. Like previously stated, I would say that people would be outraged if the list included women who had abortions, or a list of homosexuals. Seems as if the powers that be at this newspaper are offended by the second amendment, but embrace the first amendment, it's not a cafeteria plan, you can't pick and choose which parts of the Constitution you wish to embrace and get to throw the rest out. I would love to see the newspaper list everyone in their service area that does not own or possess a gun, so they may experience an increased chance of violent crime (I don't really wish this). I bet if this happened there would be an outcry by these people, saying they have been made unfair targets and that their pursuit of happiness has been infringed upon. Simple fact: in the United States of America, you may own and possess a firearm, you do not have to own or possess a firearm, but if you wish, you may-Constitutional Law. And many state laws have created provisions for carrying a concealed weapon, as they should. If you abide by the law and follow the guidelines provided for obtaining a permit, then you may carry a firearm concealed. These left wing extreamist are trying to infringe upon these rights by instilling fear of public notice in the minds of potential CCDW applicants.
July 7, 200719 yr So, are they're an idiot because they own a gun or because the have a conceal carry permit? Or is that they're an idiot because they're a law abiding citizen and went about things legally? When will you anti-gun people learn to just mind your own business and leave law abiding citizens alone? :mad: Maybe they're just an idiot. He didn't say they were an idiot because they had a gun or because they followed the law. I'd like to hear the arguments on both sides of making public the records for conceal and carry permits. As a parent of small children, I don't think the criminal histories of sex offenders should be kept from public view. There are some cases where the public good trumps the interests of individuals, IMO.
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