, and that the ONLY way you can achieve salvation and enter into Heaven is by confessing your faith in Jesus Christ and submitting your life to Him. .

 

What does the boldened entail?

Just to add a bit of light heartedness to a heavy subject.

 

Several years ago, KY US Senator Wendell Ford (Southern Baptist) and Jefferson County Judge Executive Todd Hollenbach III (Roman Catholic) were having lunch together. The topic of religion came up. Senator Ford stated to Judge Hollenbach,

 

"Todd, we Baptists don't sin any less than you Catholics, we just don't enjoy it as much as you guys!"

 

Before anyone Baptist or Catholic gets offended by that comment, keep in mind Senator Ford and Judge Hollenbach were very close friends and enjoyed poking friendly jabs to each other over their differing faiths, differing home towns (Hollenbach = Louisville, Ford = Owensboro), differing alma maters (Hollenbach = Trinity H.S., Notre Dame (BA), and UofL School of Law, Ford (I think) = Appollo, UK and another college I believe), and anything else they could pick on each other about.

 

 

Story Courtesy of Bert

Of course I also have issue with the practice of not kneeling while the blessed sacrament is exposed. Really bothers me. If I am in a parish that does the standing thing I still kneel. If they look at me oddly the look at me oddly.

 

I've been a member of a parish where everyone stands during the liturgy of the eucharist for my entire life. I like the kneeling and don't understand why churches got away from that (then again, I like the Latin mass so what do I know) but I'll be the first to admit that it took me a long time to rid myself of the confusion of when and why to kneel. :lol:

Try this one:

 

The following are also essential reading for those of us whose knowledge of religion is based on the works of Monty Python.

 

The following are also essential reading for those of us whose knowledge of religion is based on the works of Monty Python.

"NOOOOOOONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!"

"NOOOOOOONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!"

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

"............Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh dang!"

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

"............Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh dang!"

And don't forget...

 

 

DARE I MENTION IT?!

 

 

 

THE COMFY CHAIR!!!!

I've been a member of a parish where everyone stands during the liturgy of the eucharist for my entire life. I like the kneeling and don't understand why churches got away from that (then again, I like the Latin mass so what do I know) but I'll be the first to admit that it took me a long time to rid myself of the confusion of when and why to kneel. :lol:

In my church we kneel during the consecration, then stand for the Lord's Prayer and through the distribution of the Eucharist. As explained, the change was made to make the act of receiving the Eucharist more of a shared event among everyone in the congregation. It was also emphasized that anyone who wished to kneel may do so. I am a Eucharistic Minister and have seen a few people who come forward for Communion and kneel while receiving.

In my church we kneel during the consecration, then stand for the Lord's Prayer and through the distribution of the Eucharist. As explained, the change was made to make the act of receiving the Eucharist more of a shared event among everyone in the congregation. It was also emphasized that anyone who wished to kneel may do so. I am a Eucharistic Minister and have seen a few people who come forward for Communion and kneel while receiving.

 

Which is as it was received in the mass prior to Vatican II. If you ever attend the Tridentine Mass at St. Martin's that is how they do it still.

 

I would however like to see the document issued by the church that says for us to stand during the distribution of the blessed sacrament. Untill then, I kneel.

 

I concur with Getslow however, I prefer the Latin myself but being the son of a man who has done music within the church since 1958 may have something to do with it. Whenever I am in a Catholic church and I see a "Gather" book as the primary book for the musical liturgy I cringe. I am not going to go into issues I have with music in most parishes in the East end of Louisville though. I don't feel this is the place for it.

 

Story Courtesy of Bert

 

Bert that used to post on here? Tell that guy I said hello.

I am a Eucharistic Minister and have seen a few people who come forward for Communion and kneel while receiving.

 

Wow. I haven't seen that in a few decades.

Wow. I haven't seen that in a few decades.

They don't even have kneelers up front in our church. Haven't seen them for ages.

AllTell..Paul talks about "false Teachers". I'm not going to mention what Religions I believe are false on here, I don't want to get in trouble.

 

But it all has to do with scripture, not Alabama Larry.

 

There are some things the Baptist do that is in scripture error...so if I feel that way about my own Faith, what would I say (scripture) about others. I'm a fair person.

 

Here is a honest question. Divorce is mentioned in scripture several times. Matthew 19: I have a scripture based Divorce. My wife Cheated on me so Jesus says I can remarry.

 

Now what about the Catholics?

 

I was asked to attend several visits with a Father who help a buddy get a annualment after 20 years of marriage.

 

There is no scripture verse for that, my buddy's wife cheated on him all he had to do is the legal stuff.

 

Why is that? Catholics superscede Jesus?

They don't even have kneelers up front in our church. Haven't seen them for ages.

 

People just kneel on the floor for it in many cases. I see it quite a bit.

You're doing very well.

 

Maybe you could help me with the Canon desrciptions of the Doctrine of Transsubstantiation. This is what I understand:

 

1. The Doctrine holds that once the wafer (or wine) is placed into the monstrance and the priest has performed the ritual and stated that "this is my body (blood)," that the wafer and wine ACTUALLY physically transform into the flesh and blood of Christ.

 

2. This is known as the "totality of real presence," and has as its real purpose the belief that for Atonement, the believer must accept the sacrifice of Christ over and over, so that there is continual grace.

 

3. That the practice derives from John 6:45-63.

 

4. That the practice did not enter into Catholic dogma until the 9th century.

 

5. That the Catholic Church teaches that belief in this doctrine is a pre-requisite to salvation.

 

Am I getting warm?

 

More info from Bert....He really is missed here, but especially in these instances!

 

 

Transubstantiation has been around since the earliest church fathers. Ancient historical documents were found where they Romans who were persecuting Christians at that time, used to accuse those crazy Christians of canabilism - seriously. That canabilism referring to the idea of real presence in the Eucharist through transubstantiation.