HammerTime Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 That's kind of my point....If they move Dunn, Votto should be given the LF job....I mean he can't be any worse defensively, can he? I don't know they say he is pretty bad but his stick is obviously MLB ready. He has reached base in like 400 straight games or something close to that. And he has only been playin LF for about a month now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malachicrunch Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 That's kind of my point....If they move Dunn, Votto should be given the LF job....I mean he can't be any worse defensively, can he? The questionable defense suggest that Votto is slow of foot. The Reds are needing some guys that can not only hit, but run. Thats why I suggest you dump a C. Three guys that can't hit or run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 How about trade Ross, Dunn, Freel for minor league outfielder, 4th starter and a solid defensive catcher. That is assuming Votto could play left which is a big assumption at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malachicrunch Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 How about trade Ross, Dunn, Freel for minor league outfielder, 4th starter and a solid defensive catcher. Of that is assuming Votto could play left which is a big assumption at this point. That would work. Especially if you can get a #4 starter. He would be at least the #2 with the Reds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h.s.sportsrbest Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I mean he can't be any worse defensively, can he? You really are too smart of a guy to fall into that trap. He has NOT been their worst defensive outfielder this year...and I know begrudgingly you'll admit that. He has been much better this year, and while not a gold glove winner (by any means), the results on the field are much better than the "perception" that has been created by Lance and other Dunn-bashing blow-hards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 How about trade Ross, Dunn, Freel for minor league outfielder, 4th starter and a solid defensive catcher. That is assuming Votto could play left which is a big assumption at this point. Lets all hope you're not the next Reds GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Lets all hope you're not the next Reds GM. I wouldn't trade Dunn to begin like I have said all along. I'm just throwing out some scenarios. But with those 3 in a deal I don't think you are getting much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvillecat Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Package him with Dunn of Griff. I don't think Dunn goes anywhere. If traded I believe he can become a free agent at seasons end so most teams would have to really think about signing a guy that may not be on your roster the following season. I agree with Malinchurch, the Reds are in dire need of a catcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Schue Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 How about trade Ross, Dunn, Freel for minor league outfielder, 4th starter and a solid defensive catcher. That is assuming Votto could play left which is a big assumption at this point. Didn't we already have Jason LaRue? Ross is a solid defensive catcher, and a hitter capable of getting hot enough on occasion to bring his BA up to his career trends. Yes, his hitting sucks, but to get a significant upgrade in the bat category (and that's really peoples' biggest gripe with Ross), you will either downgrade defensively or pay a mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Didn't we already have Jason LaRue? Ross is a solid defensive catcher, and a hitter capable of getting hot enough on occasion to bring his BA up to his career trends. Yes, his hitting sucks, but to get a significant upgrade in the bat category (and that's really peoples' biggest gripe with Ross), you will either downgrade defensively or pay a mint. Yeah he is just kind of a throw in to up the ante for a 4th starter and minor league prospect. Hey I'm not a GM for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 You really are too smart of a guy to fall into that trap. He has NOT been their worst defensive outfielder this year...and I know begrudgingly you'll admit that. He has been much better this year, and while not a gold glove winner (by any means), the results on the field are much better than the "perception" that has been created by Lance and other Dunn-bashing blow-hards. I agree he hasn't been terrible this year. His defense overall is anything but stellar though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cch5432 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Call me crazy, but I wouldn't disagree with Freel as the everyday 2B and trading Brandon Phillips for some young and/or experienced pitching. It's a sacrifice in the lineup but we won't ever win with the pitching we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Phillips doesn't save you enough to pay for pitching help and he isn't going to bring anything close to what's needed in a trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Unless you catch a team looking to dump salary, you're not getting good mid- to high-quality MLB pitching that can come in right now. You have to either develop them or you get prospects in a trade. The #1 commodity in MLB is pitching. You're not getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habib Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Unfortunately, all of my trade ideas involve liquoring up the other GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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