I've heard on here the Chicks gained many more fans from their comments. That may or may not be so but wasn't this album their lowest in sales over their past few and did they ever recover from the lower attendance at their concerts? Fans and paying fans are two different things.

No, I'm just saying that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Do you criticize the GWB administration for its condescension?

 

I don't think I have on here. I doubt I had many kind words for Rumsfeld if there were a thread about him leaving. But there hasn't exactly been a "George Bush....such a great campaigner" thread, either.

And, my question is, right or wrong, we all enjoy the right to choose what we say, and when we say it.

 

So, you're saying that if she chose to say what she said, say here in Kentucky, no one would be nearly as upset?

 

Don't know about BF but that's what I think. Faith Hill and Tim Mcgraw prove that to me. Their comments barely made the news after Katrina and their audience is the same one. People may not like the comments but they respect courage, in most cases.

I've heard on here the Chicks gained many more fans from their comments. That may or may not be so but wasn't this album their lowest in sales over their past few and did they ever recover from the lower attendance at their concerts? Fans and paying fans are two different things.

 

The whole "low album sales" thing is a misnomer. Their most recent album debuted at No. 1 and has sold more than 2 million copies. It may be less than what, say, "Wide Open Spaces" sold, but they have traded in fickle, trend-driven country "fans" for a new fan base in the public radio/left of the dial world who will be far more supportive and passionate over the long haul.

 

So they're not able to sell out Rupp anymore. Big deal. Concerts at big joints like that usually suck anyway because there's A) too many people and B) it's too expensive and C) the sound quality is always inferior to what you would get in a proper music hall. They'll still sell out places like Taft and The Palace 15 years from now, whereas if they remained beholden to the country-pop industry they would probably be forced out to pasture in a couple more years anyway after they got "too old," the way the industry did to Johnny Cash and Loretta Lynn and those types.

 

Dissing this unremarkable president — no matter where it happened — will probably turn out to be a good career move in the long term, regardless of short-term losses. Kind of like taking a better, less-stressful job even though it might not pay as much.

The whole GWB presidency has been one of smug condescension by he and his underlings. But I'm guessing you don't get as insulted as I do when you hear Cheney or Rumsfeld speak …

 

 

Nope talking down to people in general manages to agitate me.

I would assume that comes with the territory of Presidency as I thought Clinton's group was full of arrogance as GW's have been with condescension.

 

I for one have been thoroughly disappointed in GW, but unfortunately knowing what I do now know, I would have still voted for him over Kerry or Gore.

 

The kind of smug condescension that dominates the current administration has not been noticable by me in any other presidency since I've been alive. I was alive during Nixon's time, but recall little about it. Many accounts liken GWB's administration to Nixon's in terms of how arrogant and condescending it is.

The kind of smug condescension that dominates the current administration has not been noticable by me in any other presidency since I've been alive. I was alive during Nixon's time, but recall little about it. Many accounts liken GWB's administration to Nixon's in terms of how arrogant and condescending it is.

 

 

To be fair Nixon was one of the best presidents in regards to foreign policy in recent memory.

To be fair Nixon was one of the best presidents in regards to foreign policy in recent memory.

 

Agreed. I was just pointing out the general tone of arrogance and condescension that both administrations share.

Nope talking down to people in general manages to agitate me.

Amen!

 

But you better not go by me. I'm partial to trend-driven country. So I'm rather fickle, and it's almost impossible for me to be supportive and passionate over just about anything at all. :cry:

Amen!

 

But you better not go by me. I'm partial to trend-driven country. So I'm rather fickle, and it's almost impossible for me to be supportive and passionate over just about anything at all. :cry:

 

C'mon BF, you know what I mean — don't apply my general statement to each individual case.

 

And besides, you surely aren't going to tell me that pop-country stars don't take on a "flavor of the month" quality? Nashville is always looking for "the next big thing," and the way Nashville operates, that next big thing makes it at the expense of someone else.

C'mon BF, you know what I mean — don't apply my general statement to each individual case.

 

And besides, you surely aren't going to tell me that pop-country stars don't take on a "flavor of the month" quality? Nashville is always looking for "the next big thing," and the way Nashville operates, that next big thing makes it at the expense of someone else.

Just Nashville?

Just Nashville?

 

When I speak of "Nashville" in this context, it's referring to the pop-country music industry. And they use the same tactics that mainstream pop uses, the same ones that brought us lowlights such as 98 Degrees, Britney Spears, The Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys and other hacks whose only talent is they are aesthetically pleasing.

When I speak of "Nashville" in this context, it's referring to the pop-country music industry. And they use the same tactics that mainstream pop uses, the same ones that brought us lowlights such as 98 Degrees, Britney Spears, The Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys and other hacks whose only talent is they are aesthetically pleasing.

Seems to me you generalize everything new that comes out as being equal in talent or lack there of to the above listed names.

Seems to me you generalize everything new that comes out as being equal in talent or lack there of to the above listed names.

Getting rid to post something similar. JS doesn't like them and they are just some no talent, industry driven music act.

 

I would be interested to know JS's view of Carrie Underwood.

Well I guess I'm taking a chance of getting booooooooooooed off of BGP today but I like the Dixie Chicks. I bought their CD and I love it!!! I do wish they would learn how to act when they get an award but other than that, I think they have the right to say whatever they want just like the rest of the country does.

 

I agree with you. I'm not a big fan of country music, but I have had enough background in music to know talent, and the Dixie Chicks do have talent and deserved to win that award, hands down. Their song went 14 weeks at the #1 spot on VH1 and would have lasted longer if the shows rule wasn't to retire songs after 14 weeks of #1. What was said earlier that caused this uproar over the Dixie Chicks was foolish and blown completely out of proportion.