I wonder how that applies to someone that moves, say from Paducah to Pikeville.  If they played more than "20%" does that mean they are not eligible even though they moved across the state for whatever reason?  What if a student-athlete that played more than 20% at his/her old school transfers because they were abused in some way at the old school?  Are they still ineligible? 

Also, why can't we give one free transfer instead of trying to regulate everything.  

Hopefully the KHSAA puts out a full explanation of what this vote means. 

I would also like to see a listing of what schools voted which way so we know who all the crybaby schools are?

48 minutes ago, theguru said:

I wonder how that applies to someone that moves, say from Paducah to Pikeville.  If they played more than "20%" does that mean they are not eligible even though they moved across the state for whatever reason?  What if a student-athlete that played more than 20% at his/her old school transfers because they were abused in some way at the old school?  Are they still ineligible? 

Also, why can't we give one free transfer instead of trying to regulate everything.  

Hopefully the KHSAA puts out a full explanation of what this vote means. 

I would also like to see a listing of what schools voted which way so we know who all the crybaby schools are?

Also, what makes up the 20%?  If a backup player, plays 1 play / possession, etc. in 1 quarter of a game, does that mean he just played in 25% of the game?  If it's 20% of the team's games, then what do you do if a backup player on varsity plays a couple of plays in a couple of games of some blowout wins and suddenly, they're above 20% of the team's games for that year?  If that's the case, that doesn't seem very reasonable to me honestly.  If this rule goes into effect, how long before some family sues the KHSAA?

2 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Also, what makes up the 20%?  If a backup player, plays 1 play / possession, etc. in 1 quarter of a game, does that mean he just played in 25% of the game?  If that's the case, that doesn't seem very reasonable to me honestly.  If this rule goes into effect, how long before some family sues the KHSAA?

I was thinking through several possible scenarios and I definitely think the schools voting against this should ban together and sue the KHSAA yesterday.  This is another one of those times I hope the KHSAA gets bankrupted.  I swear the KHSAA can't get out of its own way sometimes.  Why do these public schools continually do anything and everything they can to restrict student/parent choice.  It is oppressive.

19 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Also, what makes up the 20%?  If a backup player, plays 1 play / possession, etc. in 1 quarter of a game, does that mean he just played in 25% of the game?  If it's 20% of the team's games, then what do you do if a backup player on varsity plays a couple of plays in a couple of games of some blowout wins and suddenly, they're above 20% of the team's games for that year?  If that's the case, that doesn't seem very reasonable to me honestly.  If this rule goes into effect, how long before some family sues the KHSAA?

Not long and I'm sure they'd get an injunction to nullify the rule.  Same thing we're seeing in the NCAA.  But at some point, regulatory bodies also need to have the power to regulate (although I'm not certain this is the best way to handle transfers).  Otherwise we'll end up with an even crazier environment than the status quo (like the NCAA trending toward unlimited eligibility).

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Maybe I am overly skeptical, but if my son was a good young athlete I would not want him to play garbage minutes or on special teams just to get experience.  20% of football season is 2 max 3 games.  He better love the program and/or Coach or why would I want to lock him in to staying there.  I am just guessing the top programs were against this.  Guessing lots of parents won’t want their sons dressing out hoping for a few moments.

The 20% threshold just took the place of varsity competition.   Where participating in one game would deem you ineligible, now that 20% is the declaration line of varsity participation.

If a kid plays in 2 football games and leaves team A and goes to team B it must go through the state but they would be granted eligibility through the waiver process.  This will be an exception as is bona fide change of address if I understood it correctly.

7 hours ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Also, what makes up the 20%?  If a backup player, plays 1 play / possession, etc. in 1 quarter of a game, does that mean he just played in 25% of the game?  If it's 20% of the team's games, then what do you do if a backup player on varsity plays a couple of plays in a couple of games of some blowout wins and suddenly, they're above 20% of the team's games for that year?  If that's the case, that doesn't seem very reasonable to me honestly.  If this rule goes into effect, how long before some family sues the KHSAA?

That won’t be a problem other schools don’t usually want those kids.

36 minutes ago, Tkinslow said:

That won’t be a problem other schools don’t usually want those kids.

Going to respectfully disagree.  I know of a few different examples at just one program where under this new rule, those kids are ineligible.  There are plenty of programs who would love to have some of those freshmen & sophomores who get backup or special teams minutes at elite or great programs.  

Regardless, here is where the KHSAA is going to have trouble…they waited until too far into the fall season to vote on it to be able to enact it for 26-27 without issue.

From what I was told, this is in addition to the rules that already exist. So it's just a new way to get eligible, not the only way to get eligible. 

In football, it breaks down to if you play in more than 2 varsity games you can't get eligible through this rule. Getting any kind of playing time in a game would count as a game. What you will likely see is if a coach thinks a freshman is going to move or has a good future with the team, they will probably get some special teams reps throughout the season to ensure they can't use this rule. You can see who has played in a varsity game by looking at riherds scoreboard and the stats. 

9 hours ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Going to respectfully disagree.  I know of a few different examples at just one program where under this new rule, those kids are ineligible.  There are plenty of programs who would love to have some of those freshmen & sophomores who get backup or special teams minutes at elite or great programs.  

Regardless, here is where the KHSAA is going to have trouble…they waited until too far into the fall season to vote on it to be able to enact it for 26-27 without issue.

You are 100% correct, I´m sure the CAL, Trinity, St. X, etc. have backup special teams players who would star at other places.  And I´m sure those schools have a backup QB who could start at 95% of the schools in the state.

 

My guess would be in the near future they will give the one free transfer.

At this point does it really matter what rule the state comes up with? Until it turns into if you transfer you aren't allowed to play for a year or aren't allowed to play in the post-season for a year, and there is no exceptions, nothing is going to change. 

Honestly this comes off like typing something up to make a group of people feel better, but this is the equivalent of going from happy to glad.