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Chiefs 25 49ers 22 (OT) Super Bowl LVIII

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1 hour ago, DragonFire said:

He may not come off as arrogant, but I think his likability took a real hit this year with a lot of people. 
 

People do not frequently like rooting for the team that stays on top all the time. And a large portion of the population really felt it this year with the impression Mahomes and Kelce were being shoved down their throats (especially with the Swift stuff). I do not feel people in general will be rooting for the Chiefs for a while. It’s just time for a change. It’s like it was with Golden State in the NBA. You just get tired of it. 

I get way more tired of the State Farms ads than all the Swift stuff combined.

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1 hour ago, DragonFire said:

I like that each team gets a possession but the fact that the Chiefs didn’t need to score before the end of OT is absurd. Obviously they did it anyway, and you’re probably not getting two drives of that length often, but I thought that was an insane wrinkle to the rule. 

As I understand it, one quarter isn't then end of overtime anymore than the end of the first quarter of the game is.

I loved the playoff overtime rule. Totally takes the randomness of the coin flip out of the equation. 
 

Even if my defense is gassed, I’m deferring. I want to know what I need to do on my possible only possession. 

A pretty evenly matched-up game between the Chiefs/49ers gave us a classic Super Bowl.... down the stretch, at least. Both sides can point to major miscues or injuries they can cite as why they lost, but I believe those things evened out in the end. Amazingly, KC has found a way to do this in consecutive years with so little offensive punch. Kelce could muster up a half of football in the playoffs, but the guy was closer to a middle-of-the-pack TE most of the year. Rice came on as a viable WR, but he was still a rookie and would be a #2 on most teams. Then you have a bunch of JAGs at WR. Pacheco is fun. But this is about Mahomes. The KC defense did what it did all season. Bent, but didn't break with Chris Jones being the ultimate disrupter. Swift wins again.

This is not a statement about liking or disliking the Chiefs. They are easily dislikable. But the amount of off-the-field distractions around Andy Reid (children), Mahomes (being the guy + his family), and Kelce (Swift), and for them to deliver is nothing short of amazing. We see these things bring down teams all the time.

"If you are what you say you are, a superstar, then have no fear, the camera's here, and the microphones... then have no fear, the crowd is here, and the lights are on."

This is a major deviation between the Patriots. Their dislike was mainly football-related.

38 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

AJ isn't the greatest TE in history. 

He is not. And I am NOT excusing Kelce's overreaction here, but if we go through every diva moment a player has exhibited and been on the field five minutes later, it would fill a book.

4 hours ago, rjs4470 said:

I loved the playoff overtime rule. Totally takes the randomness of the coin flip out of the equation. 
 

Even if my defense is gassed, I’m deferring. I want to know what I need to do on my possible only possession. 

Obviously, this is too new to have any meaningful data.  In college, the prevailing strategy is the take the ball second.  Recently, coaches have been questioning that. I've seen data that said the team taking the ball first wins 55% of the time.  That said, I still defer  ?.

 

Thought it was interesting the SF players were not aware of the OT rules but the KC players said it is something they've been prepared for all season.

1 hour ago, bugatti said:

Thought it was interesting the SF players were not aware of the OT rules but the KC players said it is something they've been prepared for all season.

Not a good look for Kyle Shanahan and his staff.

2 hours ago, REALSPORT said:

Obviously, this is too new to have any meaningful data.  In college, the prevailing strategy is the take the ball second.  Recently, coaches have been questioning that. I've seen data that said the team taking the ball first wins 55% of the time.  That said, I still defer  ?.

 

If you take the ball second, you have more control over the outcome of the game and more opportunity to win.

1. You will know for sure what you need to do to win on your first possession - 3 points, 7 points or 8 points if you want go for 2.

2. If need a TD, you know you have to go for it on 4th down. An extra down on each series if needed.

3. If you want to go for the win, go for 2. You get to decide your best option to win.

4. You put pressure on the opposing team to guess on whether to go for it on 4th, kick the field, try the long field goal, go for 2 after a TD, etc.

Also, in last night's game, make sure Mahomes doesn't have the ball last.

Shanahan said the reasoning for taking the ball first is to have control of the 3rd possession and know if you only need a field goal to win.

18 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

If you take the ball second, you have more control over the outcome of the game and more opportunity to win.

1. You will know for sure what you need to do to win on your first possession - 3 points, 7 points or 8 points if you want go for 2.

2. If need a TD, you know you have to go for it on 4th down. An extra down on each series if needed.

3. If you want to go for the win, go for 2. You get to decide your best option to win.

4. You put pressure on the opposing team to guess on whether to go for it on 4th, kick the field, try the long field goal, go for 2 after a TD, etc.

Also, in last night's game, make sure Mahomes doesn't have the ball last.

Shanahan said the reasoning for taking the ball first is to have control of the 3rd possession and know if you only need a field goal to win.

On #2, that would also apply if SF had scored just a FG. Which they had.

1 hour ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

Not a good look for Kyle Shanahan and his staff.

Not sure what their confusion was about unless they thought they played an entire quarter. It was common knowledge the OT rules changed for playoff games following the Bill/Chiefs AFC title game a few years ago to at least give each team a possession.

I've watched MANY a Superbowl and I came to a conclusion last Sunday evening.  It's really not about football any longer in my opinion.  It's just a giant infomercial about a bunch of stuff and causes where some football breaks in for a few minutes.  I got frustrated with it and turned it off.

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