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Kansas 77 Kentucky 68

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9 hours ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

Oscar shouldve touched the ball 10+ more times than he did.

You are absolutely right. That AAU " I'm getting mine" mentality does not play well in big time basketball.

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  • MJAlltheWay24
    MJAlltheWay24

    Oscar shouldve touched the ball 10+ more times than he did.

  • I was really kinda baffled Kentucky was favored in this game. In general, I’m not heartbroken about this one because I didn’t expect this edition to win it. 

  • Voice of Reason
    Voice of Reason

    Cal forgot about Livingston in this game. Frederick was lost all night and Cal hoped Wheeler could come on in his place and make something happen. Cal should have gone back to Livingston in the second

9 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Frederick is just a little overmatched in these big games. He has to work so hard for his shot. He doesn't have the size or quick release to get good looks. He is the epitome of a spot up shooter. If his rhythm is messed with the least bit it is a problem for him. He needs to be squared up with space and has trouble creating space. He is good at feeding the post. Oscar needs to look to kick it back out to him more if CJ's man doubles down. Kick outs is where Frederick can hit some shots.

Why not run him off a GOOD screen which allows him to square up and shoot the ball? Why did the players not go to big Oscar more down the stretch? Kansas had no answer and no one to match up with him. Kansas just knew how to close it out.....nail those 24 footers lol.

8 hours ago, The Raven said:

How many more losses can they suffer before winning the SEC Tourney is a must?

If they are close they are in. They bring big crowds.

15 minutes ago, 9068 said:

You are absolutely right. That AAU " I'm getting mine" mentality does not play well in big time basketball.

While I agree with you about AAU ball, I don't really see this team playing that way. They just didn't look to get it into the big man nearly as much as they should've last night.

12 minutes ago, 9068 said:

Why not run him off a GOOD screen which allows him to square up and shoot the ball?

Frederick gets plenty of open looks, just isn't shooting as good as when he was at Iowa, especially against the higher quality opponents. After all his injuries, he's probably fallen off quite a bit.

 

9 hours ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

I am such a huge Oscar supporter but I realized this last year and it's so much more evident this year, dude is a massive liability on D.

Which is a big reason why although he was the POY last season, no one had him projected as a first rounder. 

7 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

Which is a big reason why although he was the POY last season, no one had him projected as a first rounder. 

And looks to be a mid-2nd round pick in 2023.  

1 hour ago, 9068 said:

You are absolutely right. That AAU " I'm getting mine" mentality does not play well in big time basketball.

I would say you are in the 1% if you believe this UK team plays like this. The reality is, they don’t, and are often unselfish to a fault.

1 hour ago, mcpapa said:

And looks to be a mid-2nd round pick in 2023.  

I’m terrible at picking this stuff despite watching a lot of NBA. That said, I do not see how he can find his way onto a NBA court.

1 hour ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

Frederick gets plenty of open looks, just isn't shooting as good as when he was at Iowa, especially against the higher quality opponents. After all his injuries, he's probably fallen off quite a bit.

 

As I’ve said from the beginning of the season, making a shot on the Big Ten Network against Northwestern is much different than a prime time Saturday night game against Kansas.

8 minutes ago, bugatti said:

I’m terrible at picking this stuff despite watching a lot of NBA. That said, I do not see how he can find his way onto a NBA court.

Same here.  I’m always stunned at the disparity between what I think will happen and what actually does. 

17 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

Same here.  I’m always stunned at the disparity between what I think will happen and what actually does. 

Often you see guys that can make it if they have a unique skill. In Oscar’s case, rebounding. But if that is the case you best be able to defend in space (he can’t) or be a supreme athlete (he is not that). Now watch him go have a 15 year career ?

14 hours ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

Oscar shouldve touched the ball 10+ more times than he did.

Could part of this be jealously, due to the big pay check Oscar is getting?

3 hours ago, bugatti said:

Often you see guys that can make it if they have a unique skill. In Oscar’s case, rebounding. But if that is the case you best be able to defend in space (he can’t) or be a supreme athlete (he is not that). Now watch him go have a 15 year career ?

On Oscar, I won't say 15 years in the NBA but I think he will find a way. Chuck Hayes comes to mind. If Hayes made it 10 years in the NBA, I think Oscar can. And I do think Oscar has some unique athleticism that leads to his rebounding prowess. He is a strong dude who owns his space and has an intangible, innate jumping and timing skill.

Not feeding Oscar enough last night is a Cal thing. 2015 final four rings a bell. You have KAT as an unstoppable force and they quit feeding him the rock. If you can’t make outside shots, feed it down low and let Oscar decide where the ball goes. 

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