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AP Poll - 3/8/21

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Rank-School (FPV)               Rcd   TP   Pvs

1. Lexington Catholic (3)        19-1  103    1

2. St. Henry (4)                       15-2  101    4

3. Covington Catholic (1)        21-3    84    6

4. Ballard (2)                           14-2    70    5

5. Elizabethtown                      14-2    68    3

6. North Laurel (1)                   19-2    50    2

7. Frederick Douglass (1)        13-1    48    7

8. DeSales                               16-5    36  10

9. Bowling Green                     16-2    33    8

10. Ashland Blazer                   14-4    30   NR

Others receiving votes: Highlands 11. Henry County 9. Male 7. Johnson Central 3. Muhlenberg County 2. Paul Dunbar 2. Beechwood 2. John Hardin 1.
 

Looks like someone voted for Henry County by accident rather than St. Henry. That would have given St. Henry enough points to be #1. How does North Laurel get #1 vote after losing two in a row and by 30 after last game? ?‍♂️

8 minutes ago, Tigerpride94 said:

Rank-School (FPV)               Rcd   TP   Pvs

1. Lexington Catholic (3)        19-1  103    1

2. St. Henry (4)                       15-2  101    4

3. Covington Catholic (1)        21-3    84    6

4. Ballard (2)                           14-2    70    5

5. Elizabethtown                      14-2    68    3

6. North Laurel (1)                   19-2    50    2

7. Frederick Douglass (1)        13-1    48    7

8. DeSales                               16-5    36  10

9. Bowling Green                     16-2    33    8

10. Ashland Blazer                   14-4    30   NR

Others receiving votes: Highlands 11. Henry County 9. Male 7. Johnson Central 3. Muhlenberg County 2. Paul Dunbar 2. Beechwood 2. John Hardin 1.
 

Looks like someone voted for Henry County by accident rather than St. Henry. That would have given St. Henry enough points to be #1. How does North Laurel get #1 vote after losing two in a row and by 30 after last game? ?‍♂️

That's a really tough break for St. Henry if that is the case. I don't think they've ever been #1 in the AP poll.

10 minutes ago, Tigerpride94 said:

Looks like someone voted for Henry County by accident rather than St. Henry.

Claaaaaaaaasic AP Poll.

Henry County has a 9 next to their name -- wouldn't a vote for #1 have given them 10 total points?  Maybe someone voted for Henry Co, meaning SHDHS, for 2nd?

Even in that case, those 9 points would have made them #1 for the week.  

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, The Double Deuce said:

Henry County has a 9 next to their name -- wouldn't a vote for #1 have given them 10 total points?  Maybe someone voted for Henry Co, meaning SHDHS, for 2nd?

Even in that case, those 9 points would have made them #1 for the week.  

 

 

 

I think they meant to vote for St. Henry #2 which would be 9 points. Henry County is team that wouldn’t get any votes for top 10. What an error!

Who in the world voted North Laurel #1 after their two beat downs over the weekend? 

13 minutes ago, LRCW said:

Who in the world voted North Laurel #1 after their two beat downs over the weekend? 

I'm gonna guess Les Dixon at the Corbin Times-Tribune.

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Voters this week: The Daily Independent, Ashland; Daily News, Bowling Green; Kentucky Enquirer, Cincinnati; Times-Tribune, Corbin; The News-Enterprise, Elizabethtown; The Gleaner, Henderson; Lexington Herald-Leader, Lexington; Courier-Journal, Louisville; The Ledger Independent, Maysville; Owensboro Messenger-Inquirer, Owensboro; Kentucky Today, Louisville; WKYX, Paducah.

I like when AP voters publish receipts. Jared Peck at the Lex. Herald-Leader and Jason Frakes at the Lou. Courier-Journal do this.

Peck's ballot:

1. Lexington Catholic

2. St. Henry

3. Covington Catholic

4. Frederick Douglass

5. DeSales

6. Elizabethtown

7. Ballard

8. Bowling Green

9. Ashland

10. Male

From Frakes:

1. Covington Catholic

2. St. Henry

3. Lexington Catholic

4. Ballard

5. Elizabethtown

6. Bowling Green

7. DeSales

8. Highlands

9. Ashland

10. North Laurel

Interesting who is and isn't on these two ballots.

Here is Evan Dennison's ballot from The Ledger Independent, Maysville, KY:

1. St. Henry

2. Covington Catholic

3. Lexington Catholic

4. Elizabethtown

5. Highlands

6. Frederick Douglass

7. Bowling Green

8. Ballard

9. Ashland Blazer

10. DeSales

Current Top 10 from AP with regions listed.

 

1. Lexington Catholic (ELEVENTH)

2. St. Henry (NINTH)

3. Covington Catholic (NINTH)

4. Ballard (SEVENTH)

5. Elizabethtown (FIFTH)

6. North Laurel (THIRTEENTH)

7. Frederick Douglass (ELEVENTH)

8. DeSales (SIXTH)

9. Bowling Green (FOURTH)

10. Ashland Blazer (SIXTEENTH)

22 hours ago, The Double Deuce said:

Henry County has a 9 next to their name -- wouldn't a vote for #1 have given them 10 total points?  Maybe someone voted for Henry Co, meaning SHDHS, for 2nd?

Even in that case, those 9 points would have made them #1 for the week.  

 

 

 

 

21 hours ago, Tigerpride94 said:

I think they meant to vote for St. Henry #2 which would be 9 points. Henry County is team that wouldn’t get any votes for top 10. What an error!

If a mistake was made confusing Henry Co. and St. Henry was made, that's a real shame. A #1 basketball ranking, even for just one week, is a once in a lifetime event for most small schools.

Many years ago, I spoke with a reporter who held the AP vote for The Kentucky Post. The ballots, at one time were "wired in" to the Courier-Journal. They crossed somebody's desk (Bob White, Herb Whitney, or Billy Reed?) for review. 

Back in the days of "old media," the AP Poll results appeared above the fold on the front page of the sports section. High school sports were front page news in small towns. 25-40 ballots were cast each week by local newspapers and radio stations across the Commonwealth. It helped sell papers, and was taken seriously. Someone at the C-J would have flagged a Henry Co./St. Henry vote for clarification.

There really never has been transparency in the voting process. Anonymity gives cover for some down ballot "homer" votes. The reporters at the big papers have historically been the only ones to share their ballots. Now we're down to a dozen voters, the power of one ballot skews the results, and it doesn't appear as if there is the kind of oversight there once was.

A "Claaaaaaaaasic AP Poll" - as DragonFire above describes this one, wouldn't have made it to print a half century ago. *Sigh* Sorry Crusaders.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

One thing I've always wondered:  How does media from Bowling Green or somewhere know how good a team from Northern Kentucky is?  How can you accurately rank a team you have never seen play?  Just by looking at scores?  Anyone can do that.  That's why I tend to like the RPI, Cantrell, and Litkenhous.  Computers and math don't have bias lol.  

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