35 minutes ago, Tigerpride94 said:

 

 

25 minutes ago, CincySportsFan said:

Saw a doctor reviewing a report out of South Africa that said the antibodies from the vaccines may not be as effective in preventing Omicron.  But, that the T-cells generated from any of the 3 vaccines or previous infection, were still 70-80% effective.  According to him, that would explain why just about everyone could get Omicron, but that the effects of it could be negligible.  Said that's why it's still worthwhile to get the vaccine.

In a vacuum maybe but with some experts suggesting boosters as frequent as every three months you have to ask yourself just how many boosters am I going to take and how long am I going to do it.

I think with Omicron we have a reset of sorts, I think it is time to sit back and see what happens.

 

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SCOTUS has put a stay on the OSHA "Over 100" mandate - for now.

Unfortunately, health-care workers still are subjected to the mandates.  Recently, Mayo clinic fired 700 workers who would accept the "vaccine". 

To this day there is still no FDA-approved product in the marketplace.  Thus, the current mandates are still relying on people to take a treatment that is legally still experimental and issued only under an EUA. 

 

 

59 minutes ago, Bluegrasscard said:

SCOTUS has put a stay on the OSHA "Over 100" mandate - for now.

Unfortunately, health-care workers still are subjected to the mandates.  Recently, Mayo clinic fired 700 workers who would accept the "vaccine". 

To this day there is still no FDA-approved product in the marketplace.  Thus, the current mandates are still relying on people to take a treatment that is legally still experimental and issued only under an EUA. 

 

 

You should be fired or at minimum furloughed if you're in healthcare and don't take the vaccine. 

16 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

You should be fired or at minimum furloughed if you're in healthcare and don't take the vaccine. 

From front line heros...to no jab zeroes. 

Just now, Kentucky Windage said:

From front line heros...to no jab zeroes. 

HEALTHcare.

Just now, TheDeuce said:

HEALTHcare.

Yeah, let's fire them....when we need them the most.

Just now, Kentucky Windage said:

Yeah, let's fire them....when we need them the most.

Yeah, let's have them quit, when we need them the most...

There now have been 9.6 billion vaccine doses given worldwide. Nearly 60% of the world has received at least one dose. The schism is deep and entrenched on getting vaccinated. The argument against getting vaccinated loses validity every day.

16 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

There now have been 9.6 billion vaccine doses given worldwide. Nearly 60% of the world has received at least one dose. The schism is deep and entrenched on getting vaccinated. The argument against getting vaccinated loses validity every day.

Other than the fact that you can still get Covid, still die from it and still give it to others.  Yes the argument for getting the vaccine is strong. 

 

Also I think your numbers are off.  Probably need to divide by 2.5 and not 2. 

3 minutes ago, sportsfan41 said:

Other than the fact that you can still get Covid, still die from it and still give it to others.  Yes the argument for getting the vaccine is strong. 

 

Also I think your numbers are off.  Probably need to divide by 2.5 and not 2. 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Only one factor you listed matters - deaths. The number of deaths there would be with no vaccine would be multiple times higher than what it is. 

8 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Only one factor you listed matters - deaths. The number of deaths there would be with no vaccine would be multiple times higher than what it is. 

Clearly it didn't matter to the people that opted out.  Also, all 3 matter.  That's why I listed them. 

6 minutes ago, sportsfan41 said:

Clearly it didn't matter to the people that opted out.  Also, all 3 matter.  That's why I listed them. 

The only way a vaccine is effective is if it completely prevents infection, makes it impossible to spread and zero people die? Is that the argument? 

2 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

The only way a vaccine is effective is if it completely prevents infection, makes it impossible to spread and zero people die? Is that the argument? 

Here's the thing Deuce, the vaccine isn't a Savior and that is how some people have embraced it.  To the point that they shame others for not participating.  Take it or don't,  it really doesn't matter to me.  It shouldn't matter to anyone.