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Great Crossing High School - New Football Program

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I've simply always assumed that Scott County would protect the golden goose that is the Cardinal athletic program. I imagine it'll be years before Great Crossing is remotely competitive.

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I've simply always assumed that Scott County would protect the golden goose that is the Cardinal athletic program. I imagine it'll be years before Great Crossing is remotely competitive.

 

When the school was first proposed I thought it might be a situation like Muhlenberg County where 9th and 10th grade are at one school and 11th and 12th are at the other, with all four grades playing sports for the same school. That doesn't appear to be the case, though.

There has been talk that Great Crossing won’t have the numbers to compete on the varsity level their first year.

 

When South Warren opened they didn't have seniors and played a Junior Varsity schedule only the first season. It helped to build a community while also avoiding inevitable varsity blowouts. I could see Great Crossing following a similar path.

 

@DragonFire could probably add a little more detail to that information.

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When South Warren opened they didn't have seniors and they played a Junior Varsity schedule only the first season. It helped to build a community while also avoiding inevitable varsity blowouts. I could see Great Crossing following a similar path.

@DragonFire could probably add a little more detail to that information.

I’d say that worked out pretty well for them. I wonder when they have to tell the KHSAA that they aren’t playing a varsity schedule.

I've heard that Scott County and Great Crossing will share the football stadium. SC will no longer play at Georgetown College for their games. Probably for the best as that has tied their hands with scheduling in the past.

Complete open enrollment in the district for all high school aged students. Will not hurt Scott County in foreseeable future.

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I've heard that Scott County and Great Crossing will share the football stadium. SC will no longer play at Georgetown College for their games. Probably for the best as that has tied their hands with scheduling in the past.

 

I was wondering why the football stadium in the campus rendering said "Warhawks" in one endzone and "Cardinals" in the other endzone.

If the district implements true open enrollment, Great Crossing will have a really tough time competing until McKee leaves SC IMO.

Georgetown Middle School feeds Great Crossing exclusively and Scott County Middle School feeds Great Crossing with all but the Northern parts of the county. Most of the city limits, plus Stamping Ground and the western rural areas, will feed Great Crossing. When Collins was being built it was a pretty even east/west split with Shelby County and it is remarkable how successful Collins was almost instantly at the expense of Shelby County. I wonder if we will see a similar drop off here, or if the opposite will occur and Scott County remains strong?

Georgetown Middle School feeds Great Crossing exclusively and Scott County Middle School feeds Great Crossing with all but the Northern parts of the county. Most of the city limits, plus Stamping Ground and the western rural areas, will feed Great Crossing. When Collins was being built it was a pretty even east/west split with Shelby County and it is remarkable how successful Collins was almost instantly at the expense of Shelby County. I wonder if we will see a similar drop off here, or if the opposite will occur and Scott County remains strong?

 

To me, it all depends on what those in power want. I thought I recalled that Collins was immediately treated as the favorite in the area? That they were set up to succeed as much as possible Day 1. I feel like Scott County High has too much support for that to happen.

 

To use our local example, when Greenwood was opened, athletically, they were left in the cold. Most of their teams were helmed by assistants from Warren Central, and many kids stayed at Warren Central initially. I do not recall to what extent they allowed kids who were at Warren Central to choose to stay there, but athletically, they didn’t suffer at all those first several years.

 

When South Warren was opened, almost every current varsity coach was poached to South Warren. While seniors were given option to stay at existing schools, the enrollment zones were otherwise strictly enforced in terms of flow of students away from South. But flow of students IN ago South was not as enforced. In other words, transfer into South if you’d like. Out of South, nope. It’s not hard to see that in the case of Greenwood, they weren’t overly concerned with giving them a starting boost, whereas with South they were invested from the start. I have seen schools like Collins similarly set up.

Collins isn’t the best comparison. A majority of Shelby’s football team was from West. Collins’s HC was their OC at Shelby so a number of the JRs and SRs who had the choice decided to follow Lucas. So you basically took Shelby’s team, dropped them down a class and kept the offense the same. In this case Scott Co would be more like Collins than Great Crossing.

Collins isn’t the best comparison. A majority of Shelby’s football team was from West. Collins’s HC was their OC at Shelby so a number of the JRs and SRs who had the choice decided to follow Lucas. So you basically took Shelby’s team, dropped them down a class and kept the offense the same. In this case Scott Co would be more like Collins than Great Crossing.

 

That was my point - Collins was set up for success out of the gate. They became the favorite. And as I said, Scott County has to much support on their side to let that happen. I’ve said it and alluded to it in this thread, but my assumption is that Great Crossing is going to get thrown to the wolves and they’ll have to find their own way. Who knows how long it will take. To draw on my area again, Greenwood didn’t so much as win a playoff game for the first 18 years of their program. They’ve been past the second round precisely once. They received no real support. South Warren, like Collins, received great support right away. And they have state titles to show for it.

South Warren, like Collins, received great support right away. And they have state titles to show for it.

I don't doubt they will remain competitive and I am sure the support they have will remain in place. But it will be interesting once the districting takes effect to see where they draw their talent from, although I trust McKee and Hicks and coaches to succeed with whatever they are given. Of course, if true open enrollment is offered, I don't see any reason why Scott County doesn't dominate 5A until they inevitably move back up.

Any word on if GC will play a varsity schedule in 2019?

When I spoke to someone recently, Douglass has not grown as fast as expected & barely are over 1000 students currently, so for the first 2 years were basically the same size as bigger 3A schools or smaller 4A schools.

 

I’ve heard that by the end of January they will have a better idea of enrollment numbers. The KHSAA just took Scott Co’s enrollment and split in half for classification purposes. Expect to hear how Scott Co has 6A numbers playing 5A ball over the next few years. It’s kind of like when Mercer absorbed Harrisburg and people complained about the classification.

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