I compare the District tournaments to the conference tournaments in college as half or less than half of the district advances to the region which can compare to the NCAA tourney, if that makes sense.

Playing three times in a year is silly. Expand the Region tourney to include all the teams in the Region.

 

Nevermind forget I said that cancel basketball postseason so football can start spring ball early. :lol2:

Also, with everyone getting in for postseason in basketball the games can be played in 2 or 3 days. In football it adds at least a week to the season schedule

I think the same arguments go for the football playoffs.

 

Only if you totally ignore football has six classes and basketball has one.

 

Would football sign up for the basketball treatment? That Tuesday opening round district game followed by the Friday championship game might be a little rough.

Also, with everyone getting in for postseason in basketball the games can be played in 2 or 3 days. In football it adds at least a week to the season schedule

 

If every team in the state made the football playoffs (currently 192 out of 221 team qualify) you'd need to add one more week to the season. Or you could do away with the mandatory bye week and start and finish on the exact same dates they do right now. Most teams would get a bye in the play-in round of the playoffs, anyway.

Not sure why these threads are come out pretty much yearly in Oct(football playoffs) and now. For at least the last 25 years every team in the KHSAA in every sport plays in the post season. I know back in the late 80s football was different, i'm not sure of the year that format changed but ever since, every team has made it. I don't think its going to change

 

Because some of us have very short memories and we can argue this stuff like we never heard the other side's points before and like we've never stated our counterpoints. Have you ever heard an older fella tell the same stories over and over again and not realize he has? It's the same principle. Look at the bright side, we'll never run out of stuff to argue about on BGP.

 

This is such an overplayed and lazy narrative. This deal has been the same way for a LONG time, so how does that support "this day of everyone..."?

 

I have two kids that play a lot of competitive sports year-round, and neither have been given a participation trophy since they were 5 -- what am I doing wrong?

 

And I think your kids probably end up at Cov Cath and play with teammates that likewise didn't receive participation trophies when they were young but now compete against teams with kids who did. This may explain Cov Cath's dominance in two major sports this year. :bag: :heh:

This isnt the same argument as football, technically they play 3 rounds of "playoffs in 3-4 days in the post season, compared to 3 weeks in football.

One thing that (I don't think) has been mentioned: the district runner-up not only advances to the region...but gets to share in the region tournament receipts. For small schools, that's no small addition to the athletic coffers.

I’m with you. We are in the day of everyone gets a chance and a trophy. Suburbanite moms would go nuts if lil Jonny doesn’t get a chance to lose by 40.

 

It’s been that way for years. Has nothing to do with giving little Johnny an extra game.

This isnt the same argument as football, technically they play 3 rounds of "playoffs in 3-4 days in the post season, compared to 3 weeks in football.

 

What is the problem with that? And who is impacted by that negatively?

I didn't say I had a problem with it at all....... And no one is impacted negatively by it IMO.

 

I dont have an issue with the playoffs as-is with basketball.

 

What is the problem with that? And who is impacted by that negatively?

I also don't have a problem with football playoffs either.... And I was the AD of a school that was pretty much always the lowest seed in the football playoffs starting out.

 

 

I didn't say I had a problem with it at all....... And no one is impacted negatively by it IMO.

 

I dont have an issue with the playoffs as-is with basketball.

I'll take this one on...there is a major difference, in my mind, between just getting beat on the scoreboard (basketball) and getting physically beat up on the field as well (football).

 

I watched a basketball game earlier this week in which a team got beat by 50. Aside from pride, the loser walked out of the gym in the same condition that they walked in that night. On the other hand, I've seen a football team get beat by 50 in football in which a quarterback gets crushed repeatedly because a defensive lineman gets to him basically untouched. Or a receiver gets blown up coming across the middle by a waiting linebacker or safety. Or a kick returner gets totally decleated because his blockers are too slow to get in front of the coverage guys. Or a countless other instances of similar dominance.

 

Now you can say that the football coach needs to adjust his play calling to "protect" his QB, or the QB shouldn't throw across the middle anymore, or the returner needs to learn to just go down on his own to avoid the big hits...and if looked at in an instance by instance basis, you'd be right. However, when looking at it in the whole, if these are all happening in the same game, it usually means that one team probably has no business being on the same field as the other.

 

There's a reason why you can't go from high school straight to the NFL. The speed/strength/size between the two is completely different. I think an argument could be made that there's even a similar difference between the top teams high school teams and those that go winless in the regular season.

 

Yes, football is a contact sport. No, I take that back. Football is a collision sport. Yes, there are going to be bumps and bruises from even games that you win. But, when you're looking at putting everybody in, and the prospect of adding in the lowest level teams, you have to realize you are only expanding the gap between the have's and the have not's, and are increasing the risk for injury. And for what? A game that is likely over by the end of the first quarter?

 

Football is a beast by itself. It's unfair to compare it to any other sport and how tournaments are played.