Anyone that watched Lamar and didn't think he was a guy who was dangerous the entire game wasn't watching with clear eyes. I'm fine with Mayfield winning but don't lose credibility by diminishing LJ to "stat stuffer."

That's what he is. He's arguably the greatest stat stuffer in college football history.

Which player will make the better NFL quarterback? I’m not knowledgeable enough about football to know that answer, so just asking.

It's Baker hands down.

What you said BBJ, Mayfield ain't taking one to the house from 70 yards out.

Yeah he's just going to save himself the effort and hit a completetion downfield. He had one of the most efficient seasons throwing the ball in NCAA history and average 16 yards per completion.

I feel like when Lamar has the ball, he can score from anywhere with either the run or the pass. I’ve never felt that way about any other player before him.

Michael Vick, Cam Newton, Johnny Manziel...

Which player will make the better NFL quarterback? I’m not knowledgeable enough about football to know that answer, so just asking.

 

Neither one....both irrelevant in 2 years

I don't disagree with Mayfield winning, even though he's a punk. But Lamar finishing 3rd is ridiculous.

Neither one....both irrelevant in 2 years

I disagree. I think both will actually have decent careers in the NFL as QBs. Mayfield landing in the right spot will be very successful and Lamar is too electric to be irrlevant. I mean for Gods sake Tyrod Taylor is a starting QB in the NFL and he's basically a poor mans Lamar Jackson. Mayfield has attributes about him that transcend very well to the NFL game.

It's Baker hands down.

 

You dont know how much I want him on my Jags but no way he last til 32.

You dont know how much I want him on my Jags but no way he last til 32.

:lol2: We all know Eli Manning is going to be quarterbacking the Jags next year. Haha But I agree with you. I would love to have him on the Bengals.

Yeah he's just going to save himself the effort and hit a completetion downfield. He had one of the most efficient seasons throwing the ball in NCAA history and average 16 yards per completion.

 

I wasn't speaking on his passing ability. I was talking about his ability to take the ball 70 yards on his own. I think the kid has had a great season and being efficient is fine but Jackson has accounted for over 400 yards of offense running and passing per game. Keep the 16 yards per catch, put him on Louisville's team in the ACC and he'll end up right where Louisville is with NO consideration for the award. Now Place Jackson and his 400+ yards with the Sooners in the big 12. You tell me. JMO. By the way 16 yards per catch, isn't that a stat? Just asking.

Congrats to Baker Mayfield – also to Bryce Love. And of course, to the talented, dynamic, and humble Lamar Jackson! Super fun watching #8 being part of this, the past 2 years. (It was also cool watching him being summoned on stage by his fellow Heisman brethren after the announcement.)

I feel like when Lamar has the ball, he can score from anywhere with either the run or the pass. I’ve never felt that way about any other player before him.

 

Kind of felt that way about Vince Young, particularly in the National Title Game.

I don't disagree with Mayfield winning, even though he's a punk. But Lamar finishing 3rd is ridiculous.

 

This.

I wasn't speaking on his passing ability. I was talking about his ability to take the ball 70 yards on his own. I think the kid has had a great season and being efficient is fine but Jackson has accounted for over 400 yards of offense running and passing per game. Keep the 16 yards per catch, put him on Louisville's team in the ACC and he'll end up right where Louisville is with NO consideration for the award. Now Place Jackson and his 400+ yards with the Sooners in the big 12. You tell me. JMO. By the way 16 yards per catch, isn't that a stat? Just asking.

I threw the stat out to avoid the whole Big 12 QB argument we hear all the time about how it's just a bunch of short passes and that's why the efficiency numbers are where they are. That's usually the argument against Big 12 QBs. You can't make that argument against Baker. It comes down to essentially one thing for me, Lamar isn't going into Columbus or Stillwater and doing what Baker did.

Mayfield deserved it. The Sooners 96.9 offensive efficiency rating and the fact they have led the FBS in points per game, offensive touchdowns, yards per game and yards per play the past three seasons since Mayfield took over at QB is reason enough. Not bad for a walk-on.