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How much does this weekend's protests hurt the NFL?

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Here's the good news. I don't give two :poop: what your opinion of me is.

 

Until white America looks in the mirror and realizes we are the root of the race issues in this country, it will never get better. Your snide remarks aren't going to stop me from stating what I believe on the situation. Not trying to win an award. Trying to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem...

 

So if your skin is white you are the problem? It is such an intellectually dishonest point it is why any conversation can't move forward. I don't care if your ashamed of your skin color , there just isn't a reason to lump everyone else of that skin color into a box. No one and literally no one offers solutions just shame on people because they were born to two white parents and it is ridiculous. I'm willing to discuss the socioeconomic disparities in this country. But I will not discuss a false narrative that seems to be popular in our media back rooms .

I just have problem with snide comments like you made in the original post. 0% chance you say that in casual conversation with people you disagree with. Again I do respect your sport takes and I don't dislike you. But there are better ways to have a conversation.

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I've never once said being white is the problem. I have said repeatedly that white America in large part either decides to ignore the issue or manages to change the target when it makes them uncomfortable. Until that changes, race relations in this country will continue to struggle. If what I say about it makes you uncomfortable, good...

0% chance you say that in casual conversation with people you disagree with.

 

You clearly don't know me at all...

You clearly don't know me at all...

 

0% chance .

0% chance .

 

:lol2:

 

Sure, chief...

:lol2:

 

Sure, chief...

 

Dude you realize how divisive your comment was your correct ? If you want to come off as wanting to have an intelligent conversation then make intelligent comments. And I stand by the fact if I'm sitting at a bar with you 0% chance you make that comment.

Dude you realize how divisive your comment was your correct ? If you want to come off as wanting to have an intelligent conversation then make intelligent comments. And I stand by the fact if I'm sitting at a bar with you 0% chance you make that comment.

 

I made that exact comment earlier this week in a discussion about the flag issue. It is supposed to be divisive, and it opened a long conversation about things. You are wrong. But, you know me better than I know myself. :lol2:

 

Have a good one...

I made that exact comment earlier this week in a discussion about the flag issue. It is supposed to be divisive, and it opened a long conversation about things. You are wrong. But, you know me better than I know myself. :lol2:

 

Have a good one...

 

It's meant to be divisive lol such a anti intellectual response. Again 0% chance you say that in public.

It's meant to be divisive lol such a anti intellectual response. Again 0% chance you say that in public.

 

:lol2: :lol2:

I thought Walter Williams' column on this brought an interesting perspective:

 

http://walterewilliams.com/blacks-vs.-police/

 

Let’s throw out a few numbers so we can put in perspective the NFL players taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem. Many say they are protesting against police treatment of blacks and racial discrimination. We might ask just how much sense their protest makes.

 

According to The Washington Post, 737 people have been shot and killed by police this year in the United States. Of that number, there were 329 whites, 165 blacks, 112 Hispanics, 24 members of other races and 107 people whose race was unknown (Police shootings 217 database - Washington Post). In Illinois, home to one of our most dangerous cities — Chicago — 18 people have been shot and killed by police this year. In the city itself, police have shot and killed 10 people and shot and wounded 10 others. Somebody should ask the kneeling black NFL players why they are protesting this kind of killing in the Windy City and ignoring other sources of black death.

 

Here are the Chicago numbers for the ignored deaths. So far in 2017, there have been 533 murders and 2,880 shootings. On average, a person is shot every two hours and 17 minutes and murdered every 12 1/2 hours (2

I thought Walter Williams' column on this brought an interesting perspective:

 

Blacks vs. Police – Walter E. Williams

 

Let’s throw out a few numbers so we can put in perspective the NFL players taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem. Many say they are protesting against police treatment of blacks and racial discrimination. We might ask just how much sense their protest makes.

 

According to The Washington Post, 737 people have been shot and killed by police this year in the United States. Of that number, there were 329 whites, 165 blacks, 112 Hispanics, 24 members of other races and 107 people whose race was unknown (Police shootings 217 database - Washington Post). In Illinois, home to one of our most dangerous cities — Chicago — 18 people have been shot and killed by police this year. In the city itself, police have shot and killed 10 people and shot and wounded 10 others. Somebody should ask the kneeling black NFL players why they are protesting this kind of killing in the Windy City and ignoring other sources of black death.

 

Here are the Chicago numbers for the ignored deaths. So far in 2017, there have been 533 murders and 2,880 shootings. On average, a person is shot every two hours and 17 minutes and murdered every 12 1/2 hours (217 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!). In 2016, when Colin Kaepernick started taking a knee, Chicago witnessed 806 murders and 4,379 shootings. It turns out that most of the murder victims are black. Adding to the tragedy is the fact that Chicago has a 12.7 percent murder clearance rate. That means that when a black person is murdered, his perpetrator is found and charged with his murder less than 13 percent of the time......

 

A lot of people don't want to hear this. It either makes them uncomfortable or they don't care.

I saw the Dolphins have now made it a rule they will stand for the flag. Jerry Jones also issued a statement yesterday their players will stand or not play.

 

I thought the hoopla was going to die down as the stations are not showing the anthem any more and no one really is speaking about it. And then, yesterday, you had Pence's actions and the two NFL owners issuing statements and making rules the players must stand. I don't think it's going away anytime soon.

I thought Walter Williams' column on this brought an interesting perspective:

 

Blacks vs. Police – Walter E. Williams

 

Let’s throw out a few numbers so we can put in perspective the NFL players taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem. Many say they are protesting against police treatment of blacks and racial discrimination. We might ask just how much sense their protest makes.

 

According to The Washington Post, 737 people have been shot and killed by police this year in the United States. Of that number, there were 329 whites, 165 blacks, 112 Hispanics, 24 members of other races and 107 people whose race was unknown (Police shootings 217 database - Washington Post). In Illinois, home to one of our most dangerous cities — Chicago — 18 people have been shot and killed by police this year. In the city itself, police have shot and killed 10 people and shot and wounded 10 others. Somebody should ask the kneeling black NFL players why they are protesting this kind of killing in the Windy City and ignoring other sources of black death.

 

Here are the Chicago numbers for the ignored deaths. So far in 2017, there have been 533 murders and 2,880 shootings. On average, a person is shot every two hours and 17 minutes and murdered every 12 1/2 hours (217 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!). In 2016, when Colin Kaepernick started taking a knee, Chicago witnessed 806 murders and 4,379 shootings. It turns out that most of the murder victims are black. Adding to the tragedy is the fact that Chicago has a 12.7 percent murder clearance rate. That means that when a black person is murdered, his perpetrator is found and charged with his murder less than 13 percent of the time......

 

Don't let facts get in the way of a good false narrative:)

Why don't these NFL kneeling players move into the ghettos or inner city with their families and help change the culture and racial inequality by opening up stores and businesses.

Why don't these NFL kneeling players move into the ghettos or inner city with their families and help change the culture and racial inequality by opening up stores and businesses.

Now that would require more than token "look at me" actions that have been ballooned by the media to levels of racial divide unseen in our country for the last 40 years.

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