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NBA's 50 Greatest Players - Revisited

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No way Ray Allen is a top 50 player.

 

Agreed.

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Kevin Garnett has gotten no pub at all on this. He is in, IMO, when you look at the total game the guy had.

 

Umm, I mentioned him. :wave:

Billy Cunningham (and hey I'm a Carolina guy) and Pete Maravich can go. When one thinks of great, Billy C does not jump to mind, and Pistol was more of a side show. A fun side show to watch, but a side show none the less.

Umm, I mentioned him. :wave:

 

My bad. I missed your post.

Agreed. I think Paul Pierce is also and I cannot stand Paul Pierce. Pains me to even say it.

 

I modeled my game after the guy and I don't even believe this.

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Agreed. I think Paul Pierce is also and I cannot stand Paul Pierce. Pains me to even say it.

 

I am fine excluding Pierce. If you are going with him, then he is on down the list.

 

Pierce for me was always a really good (not great) player on horrible teams until they traded for KG and Allen. To me he is Carmello Anthony.

I am fine excluding Pierce. If you are going with him, then he is on down the list.

 

Pierce for me was always a really good (not great) player on horrible teams until they traded for KG and Allen. To me he is Carmello Anthony.

 

Maybe but 1.) Carmelo is a damn good player and 2.) even with KG and Allen he was still the best player on those teams.

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Maybe but 1.) Carmelo is a damn good player and 2.) even with KG and Allen he was still the best player on those teams.

 

"Damn good" does not supplant the 7th or 8th guy down on the current top 50 list, imo.

"Damn good" does not supplant the 7th or 8th guy down on the current top 50 list, imo.

 

I don't think Carmelo is top 50 worthy yet but I think he takes way too much criticism.

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I was saying both Pierce and Melo are in the "damn good" category. I have always felt Pierce was a gamer and would want him on my squad with the chips on the line or if my team was trailing late. Melo I don't feel the same about.

I'm not saying he should be removed, but Charles Barkley is safe on the list?

 

I don't think so. Wilkins had to dominate the ball, he would have had to defer to Jordan and not gotten as many touches with the Bulls, and would have been less effective I think. Then you give up quite a bit on the defensive end with him playing instead of Pippen. The Bulls might have been able to win a few championships with Wilkins, but I don't know that they win 6. My feeling is if they did have Wilkins during the Bulls first run, they would have shipped him off looking for someone like a Pippen who would be a better fit with Jordan and willing to play "second fiddle", which Pippen was more than happy to do. It's all about fit and chemistry, and I don't think it would have been there with Wilkins.

 

I respect your opinion BigV and you may be right but I don't think so. Phil Jackson may have been the one coach who could have made MJ and Wilkins work. We will never know but I think he would have. Do you think the Hawks with Pippen win any championships??

I'm not saying he should be removed, but Charles Barkley is safe on the list?

 

Yes

I'm not saying he should be removed, but Charles Barkley is safe on the list?

 

Charles Barkley is in the top 25 range IMO. He's safe for life.

I was saying both Pierce and Melo are in the "damn good" category. I have always felt Pierce was a gamer and would want him on my squad with the chips on the line or if my team was trailing late. Melo I don't feel the same about.

 

I get that. Paul Piece showed me a lot after they became the Big 3. Imagine what Melo would show us if he went the LBJ/KD route and joined a super team. IF Rose and Noah can stay healthy(HUGE IFS) this will be the best team Melo has been on since his Nuggets days and those teams weren't bad at all.

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