But the US govt announced they were sending the money. Why do we care when and how?

Again, timing is the only reason I can think of. It appears it was Irans money to start with, although I admittedly do not know the specifics on the back story.

Again, timing is the only reason I can think of. It appears it was Irans money to start with, although I admittedly do not know the specifics on the back story.

 

Oh, I get the argument of "should we" and "ransom." Fair debate.

 

I'm just wondering why we're saying it was a secret payment.

Oh, I get the argument of "should we" and "ransom." Fair debate.

 

I'm just wondering why we're saying it was a secret payment.

 

I'm thinking Iran also called/claimed it was ransom.

Why would we give Iran any money, regardless if we supposedly owed it, knowing that a portion of it will be funding terrorists? We have held it for 37 year, but all of a sudden pay it at the same time as they release 4 hostages.

Iran is claiming it was a ransom....

We should just kick all Iranians out of America, good or bad, I don't care anymore.

Let them all go back to Iran and change the government to the one like us if they like it so good here.

This is pathetic to have to pay ransom to a terrorist country and still allow them to make nukes.

My question to some of you....Why would you believe what Iran's government calls it, but not your own?

It looks like they are saying it was part of the nuclear arms deal reached earlier. Iran isn't part of the normal banking system because of US and International sanctions.

 

Maybe be it was just part of the nuclear deal but spthe timing is suspect as hell.

 

I knew about the banking thing.

 

As for the weapons thing...the report I listened to didn't say anything about nuclear arms. But the impression I got was that this was a deal from quite a while ago. So,.maybe it was agreed in last year's negotiations that the US would return the money. I don't know, honestly. I hope to try and find out more. I'm trying to keep up with my own life though. :lol2: Doesn't leave too much time for searching for stuff that I can't do anything about.

My question to some of you....Why would you believe what Iran's government calls it, but not your own?

 

Sure, our government has never lied to us, have they?

My question to some of you....Why would you believe what Iran's government calls it, but not your own?

 

Because Iran has nothing to lose by claiming it was ransom, or by claiming it was part of the nuclear deal. The US has much to lose if it came out that we paid a ransom. That is why we would lie about it, and why I have a hard time believing Iran would.

My question to some of you....Why would you believe what Iran's government calls it, but not your own?

Do you really believe everything our govt says ? Was the Benghazzi terrorist attack the result of a you tube video ? I crisply remember hearing that on those Sunday am talk shows thinking " Why ? this cant possibly be true " and " what is the state dept hiding because there is no way what they are saying explains the incident . "

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I knew about the banking thing.

 

As for the weapons thing...the report I listened to didn't say anything about nuclear arms. But the impression I got was that this was a deal from quite a while ago. So,.maybe it was agreed in last year's negotiations that the US would return the money. I don't know, honestly. I hope to try and find out more. I'm trying to keep up with my own life though. :lol2: Doesn't leave too much time for searching for stuff that I can't do anything about.

Here's a interesting point from the CNN article I posted.

 

The $400 million was Iran's to start with, placed into a US-based trust fund to support American military equipment purchases in the 1970s. When the Shah was ousted by a 1979 popular uprising that led to the creation of the Islamic Republic, the US froze the trust fund. Iran has been fighting for a return of the funds through international courts since 1981.In announcing the agreement, Obama said that paying the $400 million -- plus $1.3 billion in interest -- was saving American taxpayers billions of dollars. The Iranians had been seeking more than $10 billion at arbitration.

"For the United States, this settlement saved us billions of dollars that could have been pursued by Iran," Obama said in January. "There was no benefit to the United States in dragging this out."

As it was making the January cash delivery, the US also imposed new sanctions on Iran over its ballistic missile testing. At the same time, the White House unfroze a larger pool of Iranian assets, estimated at $100 to $150 billion, as part of the nuclear deal, though administration officials cautioned that Iran would only pocket about $50 billion after legal claims.

Legal claims are one of the reasons the payment to Iran was controversial when Obama first announced it. The Clinton administration had agreed in 2000 to pay that $400 million to Americans who had won lawsuits against Iran in US courts.

These families and individuals had sued the Islamic Republic for damages after the deaths of loved ones or for being the victims themselves of Iran-backed kidnappings or terrorist attacks. At the time, US officials told those families the money would come from Iran.

With Obama's announcement, it became apparent that the payments had come from US taxpayers and not from Iran at all.

Iran is complete evil to many, but let's believe everything they say without a shadow of a doubt. Makes perfect sense.

Iran is complete evil to many, but let's believe everything they say without a shadow of a doubt. Makes perfect sense.

I think it's more about how Iran spins it in that region that puts our citizens in harms way for future ransom situations now that it comes out that way. I don't doubt that the transaction is exactly how the administration laid it out. But I have to think that terrorist groups have a different opinion of how that transaction is labeled. Do you agree?

Iran is complete evil to many, but let's believe everything they say without a shadow of a doubt. Makes perfect sense.

 

Blindly believing our government makes zero sense also.