Snopes was busted for lying on this one guys. Snopes is taking orders from the DNC it appears.

 

Why would they veer left or right ? There are plenty of spin sites.

 

Not as many trusted internet myth busters out there.

 

FWIW, the whole argument about the appearance of flags in both conventions was ridiculous. We don't have to be draped in old glory to be Americans.

Snopes is a legitimate site. The problem lies with people too enraged with political hate to separate propaganda from fact.

 

Snopes might have "used" to have been a legitimate site. Tainted now. Please do not ever quote me another reference to a site that claims they are Truth. Alot of sites quote mistruths about things but not sites dedicated to that one thing.

I didn't see the issue of the speaker in your original link, just a conversation about the flags. Am I looking at the correct link you posted?

 

That one was deleted by yours truly at the poster's request. Totally false story from a bogus/satiric news site. Snopes busted that one.

Why would they veer left or right ? There are plenty of spin sites.

 

Not as many trusted internet myth busters out there.

 

FWIW, the whole argument about the appearance of flags in both conventions was ridiculous. We don't have to be draped in old glory to be Americans.

 

They did it. They veered left with that lie. Why would the IRS target conservatives? Same difference. Why would the DNC try to help Hillary more than Bernie? See this is a reoccurring theme. And you wonder why people dont trust?

Snopes might have "used" to have been a legitimate site. Tainted now. Please do not ever quote me another reference to a site that claims they are Truth. Alot of sites quote mistruths about things but not sites dedicated to that one thing.

Snopes serves a valuable service by exposing Internet myths, the vast majority of which are disseminated via right-wing web sites.

And this my friends is why the Political Forum was shut down before. It's not enough to post your stand on people and issues, you have to attack and destroy conflicting views. Even some on this thread who will never vote for Hillary are castigated for pointing out some fallacies and inaccuracies. :angrybird6:

 

Ongoing discussion as we speak.

I firmly believe the greatest threat to the Amercian way of life is the massive debt incurred by Barack Obama, which has made the previous 40+ Presidents look like true slackers. I felt at the time that Hillary might have been a better option in '08, and in retrospect, that's probably true.

 

Obama had virtually zero experience at anything other than community organizing (whatever that may be), campaigning, and going to school (guessing on my dime) when he took office; and man, has it showed. Not only is he completely inept in running the country, but he's not even savvy enough to surround himself with competent people. Not into conspiracies, but if you think he's competent, then this may be all on purpose?

 

Obama and most politicians have little or no experience in creating jobs or having to meet a budget. While Trump certainly has a ton of flaws, it's time to try an alternative to a career politician. We NEED a businessman to save the country from ourselves, and our selfish ways.

 

The average voter/citizen can't name their own Senator, Congressperson, Governor, Major, etc. but can recite the full family of Kardashians, and their countless lovers. If someone doesn't slow down the take-take-take mentality; and get back to some form of fiscal responsibility --We're doomed folks! As my high school math teacher once said--"Math doesn't lie"; and we're close to the edge.

 

Businessman yes, but you can't declare Bankruptcy to protect assets as President. I'm totally against Clinton and the Democratic movement to govern so many aspects of people's private lives. However, you can't say that debt is our biggest threat and then not mention Trump's corporations walking away from debts with the help of our court system.

Businessman yes, but you can't declare Bankruptcy to protect assets as President. I'm totally against Clinton and the Democratic movement to govern so many aspects of people's private lives. However, you can't say that debt is our biggest threat and then not mention Trump's corporations walking away from debts with the help of our court system.

 

Most people fail more than they succeed. Our history is littered with people who have failed over and over untill they found a way to succeed. Then they were considered a successful. You would rather have some one who never really tried but instead cheated, lied, stole, possibly murdered to succeed rather than someone who failed, grew from it and became a success?

Most people fail more than they succeed. Our history is littered with people who have failed over and over untill they found a way to succeed. Then they were considered a successful. You would rather have some one who never really tried but instead cheated, lied, stole, possibly murdered to succeed rather than someone who failed, grew from it and became a success?

 

Here's your problem, and many of the extremists like you, whether right or left. If you question 1 person, you are immediately lumped in with the other. You missed the part where I stated that I was completely against Clinton. I just mentioned that you can't hold Trump out as this ultra successful businessman, when, given the finances that he started with, he really isn't. The man was gifted a fortune, he should have done better.

Donald doesn't really exude fiscal responsibility. His statements on how he would handle economic issue are very similar to how he runs his businesses: default on debt etc.

 

It's an area where he should pummel HRC, but he doesn't because most know you can't run a country like a casino or hotel.

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That's a question? All of the liberals on here have admitted that there is nothing Hillary can do to lose their vote.

Well we know the government can't run a business successfully, even with a monopoly. Seven bankruptcies out of the hundreds of businesses Trump has been involved in is not a bad record. Don't like it, then change the bankruptcy laws..

Here's your problem, and many of the extremists like you, whether right or left. If you question 1 person, you are immediately lumped in with the other. You missed the part where I stated that I was completely against Clinton. I just mentioned that you can't hold Trump out as this ultra successful businessman, when, given the finances that he started with, he really isn't. The man was gifted a fortune, he should have done better.

 

You can say he should have done better but how many businesses fail in the US. More than make it. I'm not saying he is the answer to America's problems, given the choices of a two party system he is the obvious one this year. He was left a fortune. Instead of sitting on it he has created jobs and employees people. Has Clinton or Obama? How about those shovel ready jobs. How about him standing in front of the Brent Spence bridge and asking the nation to help pass his stimulus bill so projects like theses can get done. Where is the bridge? Funny they will be asking for tolls to build it but he got his stimulus passed. I could go on and on about the failure of liberal politics. Won't matter 90% of the voters vote for hope and change everytime and get nope and short changed everytime.

That's a question? All of the liberals on here have admitted that there is nothing Hillary can do to lose their vote.

 

I've seen posts where some are considering a third party vote, or have even decided on it already.

I've seen posts where some are considering a third party vote, or have even decided on it already.

 

I'd say there are only a handful here that are sure thing Hillary voters. It's certainly not "all the liberals".