May 18, 201610 yr Completely disagree. Most were upset that the POTUS had the nerve to try diplomacy. Completely agree. The narrative always changes after the fact.
May 18, 201610 yr Completely disagree. Most were upset that the POTUS had the nerve to try diplomacy. Agree. Most of the cons in my social circle are of the "let's nuke 'em" persuasion.
May 18, 201610 yr Went back and read through the thread on the Deal and no one was complaining about the President negotiating. Nearly all complaints were about the actual deal and what was negotiated...but that doesn't serve the current agenda.
May 18, 201610 yr Went back and read through the thread on the Deal and no one was complaining about the President negotiating. Nearly all complaints were about the actual deal and what was negotiated...but that doesn't serve the current agenda. Didn't 47 GOP senators send a warning letter to Iran while negotiations were in progress?
May 18, 201610 yr Didn't 47 GOP senators send a warning letter to Iran while negotiations were in progress? BGP wasn't the only entity weighing in.
May 18, 201610 yr Didn't 47 GOP senators send a warning letter to Iran while negotiations were in progress? I don't know...what did the letter say?
May 19, 201610 yr Trump says he would negotiate with North Korean dictator about nukes | Fox News I agree with Trump on this, but considering the backlash Obama got for opening the door to Iran I can't see this going over very well with hardline GOP-types. I believe Trump would negotiate from a position of strength and not be the modern day equivalent of Neville Chamberlain.
May 19, 201610 yr Author I believe Trump would negotiate from a position of strength and not be the modern day equivalent of Neville Chamberlain. What the heck is this "negotiating from a position of strength"? I've heard this a few times recently. How does one go about doing this?
May 19, 201610 yr What the heck is this "negotiating from a position of strength"? I've heard this a few times recently. How does one go about doing this? The threat of overwhelming force if they don't agree is what I am assuming they mean.
May 19, 201610 yr What the heck is this "negotiating from a position of strength"? I've heard this a few times recently. How does one go about doing this? For me it is not giving in to principle. One does not draw the proverbial line in the sand and then back up and draw a second one. Obama has allowed a radical, terrorist supporting government free reign to build nuclear weapons with the growing ability to deliver them long range. The embargo we had Iran was working, even to the point were the Iranians were ready to revolt, but Obama did not give them any support of any kind. They were kicked the curb and the radicals were in firmer control of Iran, then Obama gives away the store by allowing this lop-sided nuclear treaty to be passed. The only way it will work is if the current leadership dies off and is replaced by people who moderates. Obama did not show any strength. While Trump is a bull in a china shop, he will not allow anyone to walk all over him.
May 19, 201610 yr Author For me it is not giving in to principle. One does not draw the proverbial line in the sand and then back up and draw a second one. Obama has allowed a radical, terrorist supporting government free reign to build nuclear weapons with the growing ability to deliver them long range. The embargo we had Iran was working, even to the point were the Iranians were ready to revolt, but Obama did not give them any support of any kind. They were kicked the curb and the radicals were in firmer control of Iran, then Obama gives away the store by allowing this lop-sided nuclear treaty to be passed. The only way it will work is if the current leadership dies off and is replaced by people who moderates. Obama did not show any strength. While Trump is a bull in a china shop, he will not allow anyone to walk all over him. I assumed it meant threatening nations with force which hasn't always worked out so well even when we have used it. Americans don't really have the stomach for a prolonged war to prove a point. The bolded worries me. I don't think he is that reckless, but is he that reckless :idunno:? The idea of using Nuclear weapons has not been even alluded by any president in 25 years, but candidate Trump has several instances. :no:
May 19, 201610 yr Completely disagree. Most were upset that the POTUS had the nerve to try diplomacy. You are dead wrong on this. Negotiate, yes. Bow to their demands, no.
May 19, 201610 yr Honestly when he was running for president I remember Obama being widely panned by the right for saying he wanted a foreign policy of negotiation and diplomacy.
May 19, 201610 yr Author Pretty sure the right was hard against even talking to Anyone in the "Axis of Evil." I guess we forgot about that.
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