March 10, 201610 yr Seems right to me. I think the tricky part is this: If you were a voter who supported a candidate who got more votes than Kasich (or Rubio/Bush) would you be more turned off by the party elevating him to the nomination or by bringing in someone who hadn't run in the primaries at all (Romney/Ryan/Someone)? Definitely will be tough, but I think Kasich has shown he can stay above the fray. Quite frankly, he also makes the most sense. I don't know if he can win, I personally don't think he can, but I think he's the best shot they have at not losing Congress as well. I also think Rubio drops soon, and Kasich will pretty much absorb his entire support base. I could see him ending up ahead of Cruz in total delegates if that happens.
March 10, 201610 yr So the trick to holding power for the republican establishment is to enter enough primary candidates that it is virtually impossible to secure the 1,237 delegates needed for the nomination, hand the nomination to the partys' chosen one and never allow the American people to demand change through the election process. Brilliant! If more than 50% are against a candidate, which is the case thus far with Trump, then I'd say they are listening to the people.
March 10, 201610 yr In a mufti-candidate race to say if a candidate does not get 50% that all who voted for other candidates are 'against' other candidates is a simple mis-truth. Votes are FOR a candidate. I do not recall a selection last Saturday that showed an AGAINST vote.
March 10, 201610 yr The MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Trump as the nominee. So that kind of throws a monkey wrench into all this angst. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Cruz as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Rubio as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Kasich as the nominee.
March 10, 201610 yr From what I could gather, there are two types of delegates. The vast majority are committed (like 95%), where as the rest are just pledged. When it comes time to vote, those that are committed must back the candidate they are committed to on the first vote. Those that are just pledged can back whomever they want. If no candidate after the first round of voting has reached the 1,237 number, all delegates are fair game to vote for whomever. Assuming this is correct, and I very well could be entirely wrong, I see no way Trump is the nominee unless he secures the 1,237 delegates before the convention. Thanks
March 11, 201610 yr A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Cruz as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Rubio as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Kasich as the nominee. This a thousand times. So if Trump "only" gets 40% of the vote because so many others ran, the GOP should nominate someone like Kasich who has not won any of the first twenty states, only has a shot of winning one (his home state), and will be lucky to get 15% of the total vote. So the logic is not to give the nomination to Trump who did not get 60% of the vote but then give it to Kasich, who did not get 85% of the vote??? Huh? I actually like Kasich a lot. But if this happens, the R's are fools and have no shot of winning in November. The Trump supporters will protest in such a big way that the R party will not recover for quite some time...if ever.
March 11, 201610 yr plu·ral·i·ty plo͝oˈralədē/ noun 1. the fact or state of being plural. "some languages add an extra syllable to mark plurality" [TABLE=class: vk_tbl vk_gy] [TR] [TD=class: lr_dct_nyms_ttl][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 2. [*]US the number of votes cast for a candidate who receives more than any other but does not receive an absolute majority. "his winning plurality came from creating a reform coalition"
March 11, 201610 yr It's the GOP's fault this whole mess came about to begin with it seems. Having 12+ candidates in the early going paved a way for Trump to get and continue to gain a lot of traction. They created this and now they don't want to live with it. How is it their fault? They cannot prevent someone from running.
March 11, 201610 yr If more than 50% are against a candidate, which is the case thus far with Trump, then I'd say they are listening to the people. Thus far the republican voters have favored Trump, if this continues and the Republican Party does not award him with the nomination the backlash will be huge.
March 11, 201610 yr A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Cruz as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Rubio as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Kasich as the nominee. ^^^^^^ I wanted to post the same thing. Thank you.
March 11, 201610 yr Author So don't give it to the person who gets more votes or wins more states. That makes a whole lot of sense. Trump has for more votes than any of them Total Bull crap
March 11, 201610 yr I detest what they're trying to do. The only saving grace is that they will screw Trump and they will do so much damage the GOP will be forced to reshape itself.
March 11, 201610 yr A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Cruz as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Rubio as the nominee. A BIGGER MAJORITY of republican registered voters have shown that they want someone other than Kasich as the nominee. Such a simple but very solid point Bluto.
March 11, 201610 yr Its a shame nobody was upset with the rules and the minimum number of delegates required BEFORE the contest started.
March 11, 201610 yr Its a shame nobody was upset with the rules and the minimum number of delegates required BEFORE the contest started. Not the process that is at issue, it's the way the republican establishment has labeled Trump as unfit to carry their nomination into the general election. Trump has stirred an interest from atypical republican voters. Let the candidates decide the nomination or risk alienating this group.
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