February 10, 201610 yr 89% Reporting Trump 35%, Kasich 16%, Cruz 11.6%, Bush 11.1%, Rubio 10.6% Sanders 60%, Clinton 38% 14% for Christie, Carson & Fiorina combined. I believe all 3 will drop out. It will be interesting where those votes go.
February 10, 201610 yr Democratic Socialist The only difference is Bernie has put Democratic in front of the word socialist. When you listen to his speeches, there is no difference whatsoever.
February 10, 201610 yr 89% Reporting Trump 35%, Kasich 16%, Cruz 11.6%, Bush 11.1%, Rubio 10.6% Sanders 60%, Clinton 38% 14% for Christie, Carson & Fiorina combined. I believe all 3 will drop out. It will be interesting where those votes go. As for Christie, I read on another site this morning in the comment section and laughed at this post: Of course Christie had bad numbers up here, no one wants to see that bastard on the television any more than we have to.
February 10, 201610 yr Author Bush beat Rubio. That ship has sailed. The difference is this week when they try to pile on Kasich is he can take it. He will rise to the occasion.
February 10, 201610 yr Honestly, is there any glimmer of hope that Bush still has a chance? Any at all?
February 10, 201610 yr Honestly' date=' is there any glimmer of hope that Bush still has a chance? Any at all?[/quote'] No, he's only empowering Trump by trying to be his dad and brother.
February 10, 201610 yr Seems like "none of the above" is in first place in the GOP race to the White House. The longer Trump does well, the greater the odds we'll see a brokered convention. What I'm watching with interest is how and when the Big Split within the Republican Party takes place.
February 10, 201610 yr Seems like "none of the above" is in first place in the GOP race to the White House. The longer Trump does well, the greater the odds we'll see a brokered convention. What I'm watching with interest is how and when the Big Split within the Republican Party takes place. It is interesting to think of the possibilities. This election is prime for a third party. Both sides have crummy/unlikable candidates that can maybe be taken down by a third party. Only then will we maybe see actual change in the system. Maybe this election is showing how extreme the parties are tilting too far right/left, when in reality, people don't want extreme, except the mcpapas.
February 10, 201610 yr It is interesting to think of the possibilities. This election is prime for a third party. Both sides have crummy/unlikable candidates that can maybe be taken down by a third party. Only then will we maybe see actual change in the system. Maybe this election is showing how extreme the parties are tilting too far right/left, when in reality, people don't want extreme, except the mcpapas. Overlooked in all this has been the dramatic swing of the 18-30 crowd to the left, toward Bernie and away from the GOP and even Hillary. Income inequality -- the rich getting richer -- huge college debt combined with bleak job prospects -- is an important issue with young people, and it's only going to get bigger.
February 10, 201610 yr Honestly, is there any glimmer of hope that Bush still has a chance? Any at all? I was telling someone last night that for all the early voter temper tantrums this election could still easily end up as Bush v Clinton. Odds are against it at this point but certainly possible.
February 10, 201610 yr I'm relatively young, have student loan debt, and wish I was richer. I'd rather have 4 more years of Obama than have Sanders as President. Id rather have Hillary. I'd rather have a dog.
February 10, 201610 yr It is interesting to think of the possibilities. This election is prime for a third party. Both sides have crummy/unlikable candidates that can maybe be taken down by a third party. Only then will we maybe see actual change in the system. Maybe this election is showing how extreme the parties are tilting too far right/left, when in reality, people don't want extreme, except the mcpapas. ;) I don't think it has to do with the parties being extreme. I think it has to do with the basic notion that the government no longer is responsive to the needs of the American people. That notion is prevalent throughout the electorate where Trump is capturing the right-wing version of it and Bernie is capturing the left-wing version of it. Ideologically speaking, Bernie's message on policies resonates with far more people than his label of Democratic Socialist would suggest. Dismiss him as a "socialist", or even more silly, a "communist" at your own peril. Similarly, dismissing Trump as a bigot or a fascist is proving to be equally ineffective. Any third party candidate who attempts to reside in the middle, or moderate area, is gonna do just about as well as the moderate candidates already in the race. There were record turnouts in both Iowa and NH no? And the moderates/establishment are not doing so hot. Those are my thoughts, definitely turning out to be an interesting process. Plenty of twists and turns.
February 10, 201610 yr Overlooked in all this has been the dramatic swing of the 18-30 crowd to the left, toward Bernie and away from the GOP and even Hillary. Income inequality -- the rich getting richer -- huge college debt combined with bleak job prospects -- is an important issue with young people, and it's only going to get bigger. What many of them don't understand is nothing comes free. SOMEONE has to pay for it. They also buy into the :poop: that taxing the rich will raise enough money to pay for all of this. It will barely pay the interest on the debt for one day. Bernie is like Obama, he can talk a good fight but has no idea how to fight.
February 10, 201610 yr What many of them don't understand is nothing comes free. SOMEONE has to pay for it. They also buy into the :poop: that taxing the rich will raise enough money to pay for all of this. It will barely pay the interest on the debt for one day. Bernie is like Obama, he can talk a good fight but has no idea how to fight. I feel like most of Sanders supporters are just like this girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmji36q8E4o
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