That may be the case over 10 miles or more. Been a LONG time since I have done anything like that so I don't pay a lot of attention. But I stand by my original statement, it's a slow pace over 1 1/2 miles. At least it was when I was in the Army, and an 8 minute mile was a failing time for the 2 mile run. At 6'5, 230 + pounds (then) I just wasn't built to run long distances, and there weren't many guys that finished behind me. Now I could sprint up and down the basketball court all day, but that's a different animal all together.

 

No, that's the case for any race, even 5 and 10k's....And just because it was a failing time for the Army doesn't mean it isn't a good pace.

Sure it does.

 

Running sucks. :lol2:

Well, the marathon run is part of the Ironman. That is why it doesn't make sense.

I get what you are saying, but an 8 min/pace, over 1.5 miles I can't say is slow. I am also considering the fact she is female.

 

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Now female...true I am comparing that time to in shape younger males when I was in the Army, so maybe the comparison to her isn't fair. However, I STILL say for a MALE that's in good shape (supposedly) 8 minutes over 2 miles is SLOW. I know, cause I was called slow at 7 minutes.

Looks like the Union needs to have their own representation at these runs and if you give anyone seven chances everyone should get seven chances.

 

And we wonder why the big cities have such issues with public safety departments.

 

Anytime you let in less qualified people over more qualified people you are begging for problems.

From the article it certainly appears she is not going to be a firefighter until she can pass that test.

 

After she was sworn in, the FDNY gave her five more chances to pass the test, but Tapia was unsuccessful in all five atempts. After her sixth failed attempt, in November 2013, Tapia resigned and returned to EMS never having worked a full-fledged shift.

 

The article's insinuation that she'll be allowed on even though she can't pass the test comes from an anonymous quote.

 

"She’ll graduate, no question," one FDNY member said. "The department does­n’t want another black eye."

 

There's no actual evidence the department is going to change course or has been threatened with a gender discrimination suit over their training requirements (or even that such a suit would have a slim chance of being successful).

 

Sorry, but this is clickbait "journalism." Anything with the hint of "PC" is a seller in conservative media right now.

Now female...true I am comparing that time to in shape younger males when I was in the Army, so maybe the comparison to her isn't fair. However, I STILL say for a MALE that's in good shape (supposedly) 8 minutes over 2 miles is SLOW. I know, cause I was called slow at 7 minutes.

If you are late teen, early 20s, in shape and male, an 8 minute pace is good (not fast). Can't go slow. I am around it too much to say otherwise.

Like I said earlier, there is no way everybody in that fire department can run an 8 minute mile... That is a very quick pace.

 

Unfortunately, they only have to pass the test once.

If you are late teen, early 20s, in shape and male, an 8 minute pace is good (not fast). Can't go slow. I am around it too much to say otherwise.

 

Maybe it is...but I still don't think so. Or maybe I was just in better running shape than I thought cause like I said my 7 minute mile was considered slow, especially when looking at guys that were doing the 2 mile run sub 12 minutes.

 

I ran the Bay to Breakers in San Francisco in the mid 80's. Most on here probably haven't but I bet you have heard of it. When I have time I'd like to look up the winning times of the pros in that race over the years.

For the record, I used to be able to run a mile in 5:58 and a 1.5 mile in 9:40. (Yes, I'm bragging, because I'll never be able to do that again...and I'm not really sure how I did it in the first place)

 

Running sucks though, so at this point I'd rather take one good kick to my manhood rather than ever try that again.

I don't really care how fast she can run. I want to know how she is going to get someone out of a burning building wearing all the heavy equipment that firefighters carry. If my husband, brother or son is a firefighter, I want to feel secure that she has their back if they get into a dangerous situation in a fire.

I guess the NYFD has a reason why this race / test is a part of the criteria for being a fireman, however, I trying to think of a reason as to why a fireman would have to run 1.5 miles on the job. Doesn't seem like it is something that would be required in an actual fire very often if at all. Seems like running a much shorter distance in full gear or climbing several flights of stairs in full gear would be a better indicator of fitness / or lack thereof to do the job.

8 minute mile is not really challenging if you are running just 1.5.

Yeah, that's a pretty insane pace. If I do a "walk" on the treadmill, I'll do 4.0-4.5 mph pace. What he's saying is over a 5.2 mph pace. That's freakishly quick to walk.

 

I'm calling BS on this one. I physically CAN'T walk past 4.5 mph on the treadmill. Have to get to a jog.

I'm calling BS on this one. I physically CAN'T walk past 4.5 mph on the treadmill. Have to get to a jog.

 

I'm with you. I don't believe it either, I just didn't want to outright say it. :lol2:

I'm with you. I don't believe it either, I just didn't want to outright say it. :lol2:

The woman I coach swim with is also a USA Triathlon coach. She is a strong proponent of a run/walk strategy in the marathon leg of an Ironman. I've done MANY run/walk workouts with her and she might be the fastest walker I know. We don't get to 5.2, EVER.