High school state titles or a winning recors and sending kids to college to play football?

High school state titles or a winning recors and sending kids to college to play football?

 

Sending kids to college in any shape or form. An education lasts a lifetime, a state championship doesn't (as much as I would love to see my team have one), don't want to end up like those sad farts on Friday Night Lights running around town saying "gotta get you one of these guys, get ya a state championship" as he speaks with his morbidly obese wife with a mullet and poverty strickened baby standing next to him. :sssh:

 

Both would be the best bet I would think.

A successful program?

 

CHAMPIONSHIPS....end of story.

If a program consistently wins and sends kids on to play/attend college, they have kids who are going to succeed in life and that is my definition of a successful program.

 

If a program gets the most out of the players and have kids that sacrifice and work their tails off to help the team, then that is also a succesful program for the same reason as listed above, ... the kids are learning how to succeed in life.

 

Also, you HAVE to look at wins/championships. When a team/program like Trinity, X, Highlands, Danville, Boyle Co continue to win ball games and titles, it is hard not to put them on the very top of the list for successful programs.

Being better than you were the year before, in the coaches eyes.

A successful program?

 

CHAMPIONSHIPS....end of story.

 

A successful program isn't defined by the number of Championships.

 

The number of championships can be one result of a successful program.

I deem the program's success with Championships....as that is the immediate goal. Coaches being successful, players being successful, the school, etc.....all have to do with education, discipline in life and on the field, and all of the other daily goings on......that comes down to individual success....not the program, JMO.

I deem the program's success with Championships....as that is the immediate goal. Coaches being successful, players being successful, the school, etc.....all have to do with education, discipline in life and on the field, and all of the other daily goings on......that comes down to individual success....not the program, JMO.

 

 

So, you're saying that the years that a school does NOT win a championship, that the program was unsuccessful? What about if several years go by without a championship? Should they just pack it in and concede they're not successful?

I deem the program's success with Championships....as that is the immediate goal. Coaches being successful, players being successful, the school, etc.....all have to do with education, discipline in life and on the field, and all of the other daily goings on......that comes down to individual success....not the program, JMO.

 

How does that reconcile with this statement?

 

Pride. Loyalty. Discipline. Achievement. Being a Trinity student-athlete goes far beyond the field of play. It begins and ends with the life lessons learned through the camaraderie, discipline and the excitement of competition. Strong in mind, body and spirit, Trinity student-athletes are pushed to set ambitious goals and have fun while seeking them. Through hard work and tenacity, the Trinity student-athlete is coached to come out on top – regardless of the final score.

A successful program isn't defined by the number of Championships.

 

The number of championships can be one result of a successful program.

I agree. Successful adults are a natural outgrowth of a successful program. And not because the program had success; but because of who those kids were, how they were raised and how they were coached.

For me...a program to be successful, it has to win championships, games, etc....everything else falls under other aspects, be it individual coaches, or the school in general.

How does that reconcile with this statement?

 

Pride. Loyalty. Discipline. Achievement. Being a Trinity student-athlete goes far beyond the field of play. It begins and ends with the life lessons learned through the camaraderie, discipline and the excitement of competition. Strong in mind, body and spirit, Trinity student-athletes are pushed to set ambitious goals and have fun while seeking them. Through hard work and tenacity, the Trinity student-athlete is coached to come out on top – regardless of the final score.

 

That statement doesn't specify INDIVIDUAL programs, just the student athlete in general, and I agree with it's sentiment.

I deem the program's success with Championships....as that is the immediate goal. Coaches being successful, players being successful, the school, etc.....all have to do with education, discipline in life and on the field, and all of the other daily goings on......that comes down to individual success....not the program, JMO.

 

:thumb: I agree anything less is settling...

I think success on the team level and success on the individual level are one in the same.

Since we are talking about HS programs set up to develop young kids and not professional, I will stand by my original post (#4) since that is more what HS sports is supposed to be about.

 

But you cannot throw out championships as a qualifier for success. As RP said, that is the immediate goal, no doubt.