She would have regretted not complying with authorities with a stunt like that at my high school in the early 1970's. Whew! We had a principal who was an officer during WWII and he ran a very structured, military-like system.

I guess this is my gripe. Is the purpose of a SRO to discipline students?

 

That's part of the problem also. I think they are calling the SRO's way too often to deal with behavioral problems. What actually is the purpose of SRO's? Is it to stop crime, community relations, discipline students?

He (probably) went too far, but you are correct in that the officer is a no win situation. Assuming the student was being disruptive, she had to be removed. Leaving her was not an option.

 

The teacher saw her looking at her cell phone during class and told her to give it to the teacher. Refused. School administrator came in. Refused to leave. Officer called.

I guess this is my gripe. Is the purpose of a SRO to discipline students?

 

Not sure what you mean by "discipline", but I would say that would be a standard time for a SRO to be called to a classroom.

I have absolutely zero issue with this.

 

She was given several chances apparently to give up her phone and to leave the classroom when asked.

 

Also, if you watch closely (it might not be in this video, as I watched another view that had been posted on twitter), the officer initially just grabs her to get her out of her seat. Within that first second or two, the young lady has a clinched right fist and makes contact with the officer and that's when things got turned up.

 

Respect authority and do what your told at that age & never, ever act like or at the very least of actions assault any kind of officer. End of story.

I have absolutely zero issue with this.

 

She was given several chances apparently to give up her phone and to leave the classroom when asked.

 

Also, if you watch closely (it might not be in this video, as I watched another view that had been posted on twitter), the officer initially just grabs her to get her out of her seat. Within that first second or two, the young lady has a clinched right fist and makes contact with the officer and that's when things got turned up.

 

Respect authority and do what your told at that age & never, ever act like or at the very least of actions assault any kind of officer. End of story.

I just watched it on my phone, I can't see any aggressive movements by her towards the officer. Her movements were as a result of her going butt over bellybutton in that chair, IMO.

He (probably) went too far, but you are correct in that the officer is a no win situation. Assuming the student was being disruptive, she had to be removed. Leaving her was not an option.

 

Leaving her could have been an option. We all agree she should have left the room when her teacher asked her. She didn't. There are ways to handle it, without violence, since she was posing no threat. And this is off the top of my head, the teacher could have called her parents, could have said, "well, if you are going to act this way, we are going to leave you here", and had the rest of the students go to the cafeteria. Now, would that have disrupted the class, and whatever lesson was planned for the day? Yep, absolutely. But it would have also taught the kids that violence is not the answer to every problem, and that would have been a decent lesson.

As it happened, the kids got front row seats to using violence to solve a problem.

I might have missed it, but no one has mentioned the risk of serious injury that the officer did to the girl? He slammed her down on the floor while in a chair, and then threw her across the floor, both acts pose a serious risk of harm in that a person could hit the floor awkwardly.

Are we so desirous of teaching our kids respect for authority, that we are willing to send our kids to school and have them subjected the violence and the risk of serious physical injury for the offense of being -gasp- a sullen teenager?

If the teacher got frustrated and was doing that to the teen, and then the officer came in and shot the guy as a defense to her, I think there would be near unanimous support for the shooting as we would all see that the girl was being assaulted and subjected to the risk of serious harm.

The world is full of sullen and misbehaving teenagers. There are better ways to teach them respect than by beating it into them.

About the time he is actually starting to pull her our of her chair, up around his neck.

 

From the view, it doesn't look like much, but it was something.

Would a taser be considered less violent in this situation? If that was my kid, I would not have a problem with what the officer did. If my kid was on the couch and I said go to your room and she flat out refused and wouldn't move, you better believe she would end up in her room.

 

Exactly. Same here.

Leaving her could have been an option. We all agree she should have left the room when her teacher asked her. She didn't. There are ways to handle it, without violence, since she was posing no threat. And this is off the top of my head, the teacher could have called her parents, could have said, "well, if you are going to act this way, we are going to leave you here", and had the rest of the students go to the cafeteria. Now, would that have disrupted the class, and whatever lesson was planned for the day? Yep, absolutely. But it would have also taught the kids that violence is not the answer to every problem, and that would have been a decent lesson.

As it happened, the kids got front row seats to using violence to solve a problem.

I might have missed it, but no one has mentioned the risk of serious injury that the officer did to the girl? He slammed her down on the floor while in a chair, and then threw her across the floor, both acts pose a serious risk of harm in that a person could hit the floor awkwardly.

Are we so desirous of teaching our kids respect for authority, that we are willing to send our kids to school and have them subjected the violence and the risk of serious physical injury for the offense of being -gasp- a sullen teenager?

If the teacher got frustrated and was doing that to the teen, and then the officer came in and shot the guy as a defense to her, I think there would be near unanimous support for the shooting as we would all see that the girl was being assaulted and subjected to the risk of serious harm.

The world is full of sullen and misbehaving teenagers. There are better ways to teach them respect than by beating it into them.

 

The other kids learned a lesson....If told to leave by an authority figure(teach or officer), get your butt up out of the desk and leave.

 

The people who will have the biggest problem with this are the people who also think kids should get participation trophies when playing sports.

Anyone else notice the lack of reaction from the other students? No oohs or aahs, no comments from students saying leave her alone or any comment of any kind.

The other kids learned a lesson....If told to leave by an authority figure(teach or officer), get your butt up out of the desk and leave.

 

The people who will have the biggest problem with this are the people who also think kids should get participation trophies when playing sports.

 

Yeah, except for you are wrong. I don't like participation trophies. Nor do I like kids being assaulted in schools when they are posing zero physical threat to anyone.

Anyone else notice the lack of reaction from the other students? No oohs or aahs, no comments from students saying leave her alone or any comment of any kind.

 

The longer video has at least one reaction, a student said something and the officer could be heard clearly telling the student to shut up or he would take them to jail too.

The longer video has at least one reaction, a student said something and the officer could be heard clearly telling the student to shut up or he would take them to jail too.

You have a link for that video, the only one I saw was this one and one on CNN and neither was long enough to show that.

The longer video has at least one reaction, a student said something and the officer could be heard clearly telling the student to shut up or he would take them to jail too.

 

I think that student was also removed from the class and arrested.