halfback20 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 You can still shoot a gun with your hands up, can't you? Takes less than a second. If lrcw thinks he wouldn't have been a threat at all, even if he had a gun, does he think police then shouldn't have even had their weapons pointed at him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Dude dropped like a hot rock. I sure hope for the officer's sake that he had a gun in his hand. I've watched the video a dozen times. I can't tell. When he goes behind the automobile it looks like his left has something in it, but I may be trying to put something there that's not. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 So you think most cops shoot a suspect if he has a gun in his hand, but his hands are raised straight up in the air? If the suspect won't drop the gun when instructed, absolutely. You're acting like raising your hands somehow disable the gun from working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 You can still shoot a gun with your hands up, can't you? Is that a yes or no to my question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Takes less than a second. If lrcw thinks he wouldn't have been a threat at all, even if he had a gun, does he think police then shouldn't have even had their weapons pointed at him? No I absolutely think their guns should have been drawn and pointed at the suspect. Would you have shot the suspect in that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 How do you know what his left hand is doing in the video? Can you see through things? No I admitted earlier that I couldn't see if he had a weapon in his left hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawildcat Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Is that a yes or no to my question? I've never been a police officer so I can't answer your question. I was just spitballing there with the fact that even if your hands are raised, IF you have a gun, you can still shoot it. It may not hit the target you are intending, but the gun will still shoot. That means you are still a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I've never been a police officer so I can't answer your question. I was just spitballing there with the fact that even if your hands are raised, IF you have a gun, you can still shoot it. It may not hit the target you are intending, but the gun will still shoot. That means you are still a threat. Perhaps I could have worded it better than just threat, but I would assume, and only somebody like @halfback20 or @theguru or any other BGP that is or has worked in law enforcement can answer this, that officers are trained to shoot a suspect if they feel their life, or the life of someone else is in danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmom Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Second video emerges in police shooting of man with hands raised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 No I absolutely think their guns should have been drawn and pointed at the suspect. Would you have shot the suspect in that situation? Hard to say based on one video from that far away. Need more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Has the second video been made public yet? Dispatchers are saying that he was armed with a knife, on that recording and threatening suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Second video emerges in police shooting of man with hands raised So he had a knife at some point...assaulted a female and possibly injured a baby. Then, non lethal methods to arrest him failed, and he took an officers taser, according to that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sources apparently claim he had a knife in his other hand, according to the second video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Indefensible. Of course, that won't stop some from trying. Everything isn't always as absolute as you think it is. This still is far from over in terms of deciding whether they were justified, but is it evident to you now that sometimes things aren't what they seem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Everything isn't always as absolute as you think it is. This still is far from over in terms of deciding whether they were justified, but is it evident to you now that sometimes things aren't what they seem? Still indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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