Gotcha, probably gonna offend some one but IMO the major factors on CE were there. CE has more talent and a high energy coach, should go far in end of season tourney. Good luck

8th Ockerman beat CE in there first game' date=' was a great game. Then beat Beechwood in there 2nd game, all players were present to my knowledge for all squads on those days. Since a rough start at 0-2 after Highlands and Beechwood losses, Ockerman has put together a nice run despite a coach that is just there? wins against SV, Conner, CE, and Beechwood with a one point loss to CE in there. Keep grinding Hawks, just wanted to give a shout out.[/quote'] If the Ockerman coach had half a brain these close games would be a little easier. He has one of the strongest interior low post players in NKY (Jones) yet he has him playing the high post as he attempts back door cuts and three pointers. With Armour and Williams he has two of the best catch and shoot guards. With Hrycak they have a long point that can rotate the ball side to side. Why in the world that ball doesn't go to the block is beyond me. Jones will kick it right back out to the shooters unlike most others. It would up the three's for those shooters much more that this dribble drive backdoor stuff.

If the Ockerman coach had half a brain these close games would be a little easier. He has one of the strongest interior low post players in NKY (Jones) yet he has him playing the high post as he attempts back door cuts and three pointers. With Armour and Williams he has two of the best catch and shoot guards. With Hrycak they have a long point that can rotate the ball side to side. Why in the world that ball doesn't go to the block is beyond me. Jones will kick it right back out to the shooters unlike most others. It would up the three's for those shooters much more that this dribble drive backdoor stuff.

 

Agreed that Jones is unselfish big man who will kick it back out to open perimeter players. :thumb:

Gotcha, probably gonna offend some one but IMO the major factors on CE were there. CE has more talent and a high energy coach, should go far in end of season tourney. Good luck

They had one player that was not there that started when they played the night before in the school league (Zac Jennings) but your right other than that they did have the rest of there starters there. I'm not trying to take anything away from ockerman they played hard and wanted it more.

If the Ockerman coach had half a brain these close games would be a little easier. He has one of the strongest interior low post players in NKY (Jones) yet he has him playing the high post as he attempts back door cuts and three pointers. With Armour and Williams he has two of the best catch and shoot guards. With Hrycak they have a long point that can rotate the ball side to side. Why in the world that ball doesn't go to the block is beyond me. Jones will kick it right back out to the shooters unlike most others. It would up the three's for those shooters much more that this dribble drive backdoor stuff.

 

While you are discrediting him why not just name him. I enjoy many of your posts in regards to the amount of time and enthusiasm you put into coaching youth sports but I have to say calling out coaches on here will NEVER help you in the long run.

Did Ockerman beat Beechwood and CE? I know they also beat SVA. Seems like something is going right because in the past that Ockerman team wasn't beating those high Caliber teams.

 

Nice wins for Ockerman.

I was just responding the person who called him out originally. I didn't come running here with comments. Maybe I was a little harsh. Keep in mind that I don't have a dog in the fight. Not a rooting interest in any of these games. I have former players on all these teams and care about all of them. I do cheer for each of them and want them to succeed. But when they face each other I'm pretty neutral. However, Jones is a kid that I cut from two tryouts as he grew up. He's a kid that I've never had in a practice. (Subbed for me at the end of the AAI season) But he is a young man that I admire. He has worked his butt off and now as his body develops it is "his turn" and I want to see him get that chance. Right now he's not getting the chance he deserves. Two years ago prior to me taking an assistant role with Gray, I approached the CEMS coach (after a game) and asked him why one of the best "shooters" in NKY wasn't getting any PT? He said "I don't know". I went on to tell him that he has a really good player and he doesn't realize it. The kid played for Legacy and his name is Jacob. I never met the player or his parents. But somebody needed to say something for sake of the player and team.

 

To me it is just that obvious.

Did Ockerman beat Beechwood and CE? I know they also beat SVA. Seems like something is going right because in the past that Ockerman team wasn't beating those high Caliber teams. Nice wins for Ockerman.

CE has beaten Ockerman a couple times and Ockerman beat them once. But, I think the total margin in all three games is pretty close. Beechwood beat Ockerman pretty good earlier this year and now Ockerman got the win. I don't know about SVA. I think this just underscores how much parity there is in players of this age. One player hitting puberty is changing games. It makes it a lot of fun.

 

But, I think this Ockerman group has always been scrappy competitive. In the past if they were hitting three's and creating turnovers they couple play with anyone.

CE has beaten Ockerman a couple times and Ockerman beat them once. But, I think the total margin in all three games is pretty close. Beechwood beat Ockerman pretty good earlier this year and now Ockerman got the win. I don't know about SVA. I think this just underscores how much parity there is in players of this age. One player hitting puberty is changing games. It makes it a lot of fun.

 

But, I think this Ockerman group has always been scrappy competitive. In the past if they were hitting three's and creating turnovers they couple play with anyone.

 

I think it's just match ups at this age. Certain teams just match up better with others. Ockerman doesn't have the size

so they rely on speed and the 3 to save them. There are teams the give us fits that others blow out. It's the beauty of 13-14 yr old boys playing bball, you never know who will show up.

Heading out to Turkey Foot with a friend tonight.

 

Who will I see playing?

I think it's just match ups at this age. Certain teams just match up better with others. Ockerman doesn't have the size so they rely on speed and the 3 to save them. There are teams the give us fits that others blow out. It's the beauty of 13-14 yr old boys playing bball' date=' you never know who will show up.[/quote']

 

That's kind of my point. Ockerman has a 6'3" 215 pound center that can dominate the the low block. He is very physical, he can shoot with both hands. But they don't use it. An inside outside game with those "catch and shoot" guards would put the "March-up" in their favor.

That's kind of my point. Ockerman has a 6'3" 215 pound center that can dominate the the low block. He is very physical, he can shoot with both hands. But they don't use it. An inside outside game with those "catch and shoot" guards would put the "March-up" in their favor.

 

Wait...So are you saying they have a 6'3 big with size and don't play him? Do they have any other bigs that play over him? Why would you not play him and let him bang around down low. We played them early on but I was out of town so I missed the game. I believe it was a 20+ point game but we have pretty big team with Salter 6'4, and fast kids like at Huddleston 6'0+, and Ahlfeld 5'10+.

Heading out to Turkey Foot with a friend tonight.

 

Who will I see playing?

 

Update us, sir. Thanks!

Wait...So are you saying they have a 6'3 big with size and don't play him? Do they have any other bigs that play over him? Why would you not play him and let him bang around down low. We played them early on but I was out of town so I missed the game. I believe it was a 20+ point game but we have pretty big team with Salter 6'4, and fast kids like at Huddleston 6'0+, and Ahlfeld 5'10+.

 

They do play him. His reference was that he plays too much in the high post.

 

When SVA played Ockerman at Ockerman, he was more of just a rebound-stick back guy. They did try to penetrate the middle and have him duck in behind the defense for the dump off a few times, and it worked.

 

I'm sure he's progressed since then. He was a scrappy, strong kid. Thick and competitive.

They do play him. His reference was that he plays too much in the high post.

 

When SVA played Ockerman at Ockerman, he was more of just a rebound-stick back guy. They did try to penetrate the middle and have him duck in behind the defense for the dump off a few times, and it worked.

 

I'm sure he's progressed since then. He was a scrappy, strong kid. Thick and competitive.

 

That makes much more sense. I must've read it wrong.