Heard Huddy is back and they blew Holmes out. Times is changing for this series it appears.

Any good games last night?

 

HMS swept Holmes

6th-7th-8th

CE swept ockerman at ockerman

Heard Huddy is back and they blew Holmes out. Times is changing for this series it appears.

 

It was not pretty. The good news is you can tell Holmes is trying to turn it around and work on the culture in middle school program. I know that series will continue to get tougher as the boys continue to grow, but having the big 3 back and 100% healthy for the first time really all year was scary to watch. You can tell Huddleston and Ahlfeld have played A LOT of bball together. Ton's backdoor cuts, give-n-go's, fast breaks, etc.

If someone has them, can they post the schedules for the holiday tourney's? Might be some good games to check out.

You're drunk.

 

Nobody is forcing anything.

 

This is a four month program that teaches kids fundamentals. Nobody asked your opinion. I had 60 kids come out to my tryout in October. Took that number and placed all but 6 kids on teams. Three 3rd grade teams and two 2nd grade teams. Not a single coach is making a penny.

We ran out of coaches or we'd had more.

 

The days of teaching plays to kids are long gone. If you are not teaching muscle memory and skill work the kids have No chance.

 

BTW if you are halfway creative the kids have a blast.

 

Really? The days of teaching plays to kids are long gone... I guess Tom Izzo has it wrong, because those kids at Michigan State are running hundreds of plays & sets, according to Dick Vitale

 

I'm assuming you're talking about 2nd & 3rd grade kids. And, then, yes, we agree... you should be trying to work mostly on fundamentals (ball handling, passing, footwork, positioning, shooting, etc.). It's great that you get that many dribbles as a youngster. And, Skill work should ALWAYS be a part of your routine.

 

However, basketball is also very much about spacing, angles, situations, screening, proper cutting, defense & rebounding (which both have a lot to do with want to, as much as they do technique), etc., and those things can all be learned through running multi-option sets. I believe these things are very important to learn in regards to learning how a defense work, and that adds to IQ of the game. If a kid is taking 63k dribbles as a 2nd and 3rd grader, then he should probably really love basketball. And, if he/she really loves basketball they'll probably want to play for a long time (high school and the next level), and if they want to do that, they'll have to know how the game works. And, the game is about far more than just ball handling.

 

Again, I'm sure you know all this, but I think some may take your post wrong. Heck, maybe I did. That's the glory of BGP, we can all post our opinions on the game(s) we love.

CE swept ockerman at ockerman

 

How did the 7th & 8th grade games look?

How did the 7th & 8th grade games look?

All I no about the 7th grade game is CE was down by double digits in the second half and they came storming back and won by I think 3

8th grade game CE was up between 8 and 12 pretty much all game and ockerman made a late run CE struggled bad from the foul line and one of ockerman guards hit a three at the buzzer but CE won by 1

Really? The days of teaching plays to kids are long gone... I guess Tom Izzo has it wrong' date=' because those kids at Michigan State are running hundreds of plays & sets, according to Dick Vitale I'm assuming you're talking about 2nd & 3rd grade kids. And, then, yes, we agree... you should be trying to work mostly on fundamentals (ball handling, passing, footwork, positioning, shooting, etc.). It's great that you get that many dribbles as a youngster. And, Skill work should ALWAYS be a part of your routine. However, basketball is also very much about spacing, angles, situations, screening, proper cutting, defense & rebounding (which both have a lot to do with want to, as much as they do technique), etc., and those things can all be learned through running multi-option sets. I believe these things are very important to learn in regards to learning how a defense work, and that adds to IQ of the game. If a kid is taking 63k dribbles as a 2nd and 3rd grader, then he should probably really love basketball. And, if he/she really loves basketball they'll probably want to play for a long time (high school and the next level), and if they want to do that, they'll have to know how the game works. And, the game is about far more than just ball handling. Again, I'm sure you know all this, but I think some may take your post wrong. Heck, maybe I did. That's the glory of BGP, we can all post our opinions on the game(s) we love.[/quote']

 

Yes 2nd graders

 

As 3rd graders the focus is expanding as is the type of dribbles we are doing.

 

I don't mean it's dead that "No body is doing it". I mean it's dead in the fact the better teams are NOT doing it.

Teams I coach in school ball and AAU run a ton of different sets. In AAU the sets have many more options and decisions. That gets scaled back in school ball. But, we have been pretty successful in both environments. But, I guess our style isn't for everyone. We also teach an understanding of the game, and kids that play for us learn what is important and what contributes to winning basketball. Running up and down the floor, taking bad shots, standing around in a zone and not rebounding the ball doesn't win against good teams.

 

But, like I said, our way doesn't work for everyone and every "good" player isn't our kind of player.

Yes 2nd graders

 

As 3rd graders the focus is expanding as is the type of dribbles we are doing.

 

I don't mean it's dead that "No body is doing it". I mean it's dead in the fact the better teams are NOT doing it.

 

Good teams you know may NOT be doing that, but to infer that any team who is a good team is not running sets, and only focuses on 63k dribbles, etc, is a gross overstatement, imo.

 

What good teams are you referring to?

 

I know many MS, HS, and AAU teams that are good, and most focus on the fundamentals, aspects I mentioned above, and fine discipline, while playing in a "controlled" environment.

 

In fact, I also know a 4th/5th grade AAU team that is pretty good, and they do mostly as I mentioned above.

 

If what you specifically do works, that's great! Keep doing it (as you will). But, it doesn't mean that style is for everyone.

Good teams you know may NOT be doing that' date=' but to infer that any team who is a good team is not running sets, and only focuses on 63k dribbles, etc, is a gross overstatement, imo. What good teams are you referring to? I know many MS, HS, and AAU teams that are good, and most focus on the fundamentals, aspects I mentioned above, and fine discipline, while playing in a "controlled" environment. In fact, I also know a 4th/5th grade AAU team that is pretty good, and they do mostly as I mentioned above. If what you specifically do works, that's great! Keep doing it (as you will). But, it doesn't mean that style is for everyone.[/quote'] How many times do I have to say 2nd graders? I coach a team of of 8th graders also and no we don't do this. Why do you people just want to argue about something? . I don't get it. In fact, it was a generalization about the opportunity given to some kids and not others. The point was that some kids don't get the gym time to develop at young ages. Many of these kids are grouped together in the same social class by the location of their school. Therefore, the size of their school doesn't matter if they haven't developed at a young age.

Edited December 19, 201510 yr by SSSGODWIN

Let me apologize. That last post was out of frustration.

 

People on this site just want to argue and it's frustrating. You're not one of them. In fact I enjoy most of your comments. But there are some folks that just want to argue.

 

Teams I watch and other coaches I talk to don't spend their time practicing sets.

 

Trust me. I was there. I had a 3rd grade team five years ago running the Flex offense in practice. But when we got to a tournament and teams were in a 2-3 or half court trap I quickly realized we wasted our practice time.

 

My comments were a generalization about the opportunity given to some kids and not others. The point was that some kids don't get the gym time to develop at young ages. Many of these kids are grouped together in the same social class by the location of their school. Therefore, the size of their school doesn't matter if they haven't developed at a young age.

I'm not here to argue. However, it is a sports blog. That tends to happen

 

You clarified 2nd grade. Point received. Thank you. Elementary is a great age to work on proper fundamentals and discipline in the skill work, especially ball-handling.

 

No matter what, getting in the gym with kids, volunteering, and helping kids is important.

Long day of basketball for Beechwood 8th grade.

 

League game, beats Ludlow 55 - 7

Turkeyfoot tourney, beats Conner 44 - 19

 

then heads to KBA in Lexington and beats Tates Creek 54 - 22, and finishes the night beating a very good team from North Bernstatdt (London, ky area), 49 - 46 in OT.

Long day of basketball for Beechwood 8th grade. League game' date=' beats Ludlow 55 - 7 Turkeyfoot tourney, beats Conner 44 - 19 then heads to KBA in Lexington and beats Tates Creek 54 - 22, and finishes the night beating a very good team from North Bernstatdt (London, ky area), 49 - 46 in OT.[/quote']

 

In one day?