I don't know any of those schools/kids so I can't comment. But, the simple fact that a school the size of WV would be mid pack of the large school division makes my point.

 

I don't think success is related to enrollment. It's a factor, but I think coaches and social class effect middle school performance more than anything.

 

These kids that have had the opportunity to play growing up (elementary age) are far more skilled than the kids that haven't.

 

 

 

I have to agree. Turkeyfoot, Camp Ernst, Conner, and Gray Middle(All 1000-1200 kids) all have almost double what Highlands enrollment is around 600+. WV is around 500+, St Pius 550+.

 

Food for thought...is that the reason Holmes struggles (just under 800 kids)some in Middle school ball but is always in the conversation for high school ball??? Not enough opportunity to play at a younger age? That's a scary thought to think how great those boys/girls could be if they had the coaching and opportunity at the elementary and middle school level.

I have to agree. Turkeyfoot, Camp Ernst, Conner, and Gray Middle(All 1000-1200 kids) all have almost double what Highlands enrollment is around 600+. WV is around 500+, St Pius 550+.

 

Food for thought...is that the reason Holmes struggles (just under 800 kids)some in Middle school ball but is always in the conversation for high school ball??? Not enough opportunity to play at a younger age? That's a scary thought to think how great those boys/girls could be if they had the coaching and opportunity at the elementary and middle school level.

 

A lot of these smaller schools also have the same kids playing together from 1st grade on. St Pius kids play in the Catholic league together from early grades and have continuity. WV from what I have seen does a good job of getting the kids playing together in elementary school.

Larger schools have a lot more kids but come from numerous elementary schools and have never been on the court together in some cases.

I think it is more of the demographic of kids that attend these schools instead of the school's themselves. But in the case for WV. I know they have and elementary program for kids that is much more advanced than what Boone Co Public has.

 

I think this is why in High School Holmes, Loyd and Boone County etc catch up. These kids don't have parents driving them around for early development.

 

Here's an example:

My 2nd graders last year spent 7 hrs/week in the gym. By the end of the year each kid (16) did 63K dribble reps and 58K feet of agility. This can only be done in a high school gym that parents have to pay for and transport to and from. This year it is even more advanced.

 

How many lower income kids get this chance? Better yet. How many of their parents could get them there if it were free?

 

The Catholic school do a great job because they have their own gyms and leagues. Plus they develop more kids because they have many more schools and rosters that are the same size.

 

I don't think it would for High school. The numbers win out once kids grow up. But at young ages it is pretty much all about skills.

I have to agree. Turkeyfoot' date=' Camp Ernst, Conner, and Gray Middle(All 1000-1200 kids) all have almost double what Highlands enrollment is around 600+. WV is around 500+, St Pius 550+.[/quote']

This past summer when I was moving I looked at a couple of those school enrollment.

Not sure where you got those numbers though. Highlands is around 240/grade.(700 in the school) WV is about 125/grade. WV middle is 5th~8th grades for those 500 kids. Single A High School it is really small. Which surprised me that they are in the same basketball district as SK.

This past summer when I was moving I looked at a couple of those school enrollment.

Not sure where you got those numbers though. Highlands is around 240/grade.(700 in the school) WV is about 125/grade. WV middle is 5th~8th grades for those 500 kids. Single A High School it is really small. Which surprised me that they are in the same basketball district as SK.

 

Based on... Schooldigger.com. It was the first one that pulled up.

Walton-Verona Middle School in Walton KY - SchoolDigger.com

 

 

I believe these are all 5th-8th grade schools.

 

Latest number I got from HMS was they are under 650 and I said they were 600+

WV has over 500 and I said they were 500+

St. Pius has over 550 and I said 550+

I think it is more of the demographic of kids that attend these schools instead of the school's themselves. But in the case for WV. I know they have and elementary program for kids that is much more advanced than what Boone Co Public has.

 

I think this is why in High School Holmes, Loyd and Boone County etc catch up. These kids don't have parents driving them around for early development.

 

Here's an example:

My 2nd graders last year spent 7 hrs/week in the gym. By the end of the year each kid (16) did 63K dribble reps and 58K feet of agility. This can only be done in a high school gym that parents have to pay for and transport to and from. This year it is even more advanced.

 

How many lower income kids get this chance? Better yet. How many of their parents could get them there if it were free?

 

The Catholic school do a great job because they have their own gyms and leagues. Plus they develop more kids because they have many more schools and rosters that are the same size.

 

I don't think it would for High school. The numbers win out once kids grow up. But at young ages it is pretty much all about skills.

 

This is the exact reason that Catholic High Schools can do more with less students. It isn't due to the that terrible R word, it comes down to the feeder schools have 1 or 2 teams per class, so by the time that they get to NewCath or CovCath, you have 5 to 7 point guards with good floor time coming out to try out for 2 spots. It is the same idea behind the Fort Thomas Junior Football League and why Highlands can punch above its weight most years.

Yes, St Pius has 500+ students, but that is K-8. Junior High (6, 7 & 8) is probably in the range 180-200. Not using it as an excuse for anything, just pointing out the numbers for comparison.

Yes, St Pius has 500+ students, but that is K-8. Junior High (6, 7 & 8) is probably in the range 180-200. Not using it as an excuse for anything, just pointing out the numbers for comparison.

 

Good looking out. I thought that number seemed high. Dang Schooldigger.com. LOL

This is the exact reason that Catholic High Schools can do more with less students. It isn't due to the that terrible R word' date=' it comes down to the feeder schools have 1 or 2 teams per class, so by the time that they get to NewCath or CovCath, you have 5 to 7 point guards with good floor time coming out to try out for 2 spots. It is the same idea behind the Fort Thomas Junior Football League and why Highlands can punch above its weight most years.[/quote']

 

Bingo!

 

Next Up, Sports specialty schools. Use a home school curriculum and have two hours a day training.

 

... If I had the money!

What about the inner city kids that live at the Boys Club and work on their game individually? I know there is a small percentage of them but I would love to know what programs are out there for the inner city kids.

 

I know Hatton played with the TarHeels in grade school but I also heard he literally lived at the Boys club everyday. He grew up in CVG I believe. Just curious if anyone in that area knows.

I think it is more of the demographic of kids that attend these schools instead of the school's themselves. But in the case for WV. I know they have and elementary program for kids that is much more advanced than what Boone Co Public has.

 

I think this is why in High School Holmes, Loyd and Boone County etc catch up. These kids don't have parents driving them around for early development.

 

Here's an example:

My 2nd graders last year spent 7 hrs/week in the gym. By the end of the year each kid (16) did 63K dribble reps and 58K feet of agility. This can only be done in a high school gym that parents have to pay for and transport to and from. This year it is even more advanced.

 

How many lower income kids get this chance? Better yet. How many of their parents could get them there if it were free?

 

The Catholic school do a great job because they have their own gyms and leagues. Plus they develop more kids because they have many more schools and rosters that are the same size.

 

I don't think it would for High school. The numbers win out once kids grow up. But at young ages it is pretty much all about skills.

 

If your 2nd graders are doing that much, maybe thats the problem. Maybe the kids that dont have parents forcing that down their throat when they are 8 allows them to not be burnt out when they get to high school. Just a thought. Kids need to be kids.

If your 2nd graders are doing that much' date=' maybe thats the problem. Maybe the kids that dont have parents forcing that down their throat when they are 8 allows them to not be burnt out when they get to high school. Just a thought. Kids need to be kids.[/quote']

 

 

 

Nobody is forcing anything.

 

This is a four month program that teaches kids fundamentals. Nobody asked your opinion. I had 60 kids come out to my tryout in October. Took that number and placed all but 6 kids on teams. Three 3rd grade teams and two 2nd grade teams. Not a single coach is making a penny.

We ran out of coaches or we'd had more.

 

The days of teaching plays to kids are long gone. If you are not teaching muscle memory and skill work the kids have No chance.

 

BTW if you are halfway creative the kids have a blast.

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Nobody is forcing anything.

 

This is a four month program that teaches kids fundamentals. Nobody asked your opinion. I had 60 kids come out to my tryout in October. Took that number and placed all but 6 kids on teams. Three 3rd grade teams and two 2nd grade teams. Not a single coach is making a penny.

We ran out of coaches or we'd had more.

 

The days of teaching plays to kids are long gone. If you are not teaching muscle memory and skill work the kids have No chance.

 

BTW if you are halfway creative the kids have a blast.

 

Sorry if i struck a nerve and didn't know I needed to be asked my opinion. I am not saying you are wrong at all and admire people like you who volunteer your time. I just think some parents force these things on kids thinking they are the next Jordan and by the time they get to HS they are burnt out. Other kids are just getting started and many times pass up the kids up who just dont want to do it anymore.

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What about the inner city kids that live at the Boys Club and work on their game individually? I know there is a small percentage of them but I would love to know what programs are out there for the inner city kids.

 

I know Hatton played with the TarHeels in grade school but I also heard he literally lived at the Boys club everyday. He grew up in CVG I believe. Just curious if anyone in that area knows.

 

True statement.

Any good games last night?

 

HMS swept Holmes

6th-7th-8th