Now we're just being absurd.

 

I'd love to see someone try to prove that.

 

So you refuse to do business with someone because it's hurting your bottom line and you're quickly hauled into court for discriminating against that person. Now you have to pay all the legal fees to defend yourself and ultimately prove that you did not discriminate. How does that affect your bottom line?

 

Bottom line is you believe that it's OK to discriminate based on profit, but it's not OK to discriminate based on morality.

 

Bottom line is you believe that it's OK to discriminate based on profit, but it's not OK to discriminate based on morality.

 

100% yes, although I wouldn't call it discrimination. Businesses make almost all decisions based on their bottom line. The whole point of business is to make money. If you're constantly taking on business that results in a loss, you won't be in business very long.

 

Here's the definition of discrimination: "is action that denies social participation or human rights to categories of people based on prejudice. This includes treatment of an individual or group based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or social category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated".

 

I'm not sure how a business refusing unprofitable business falls under that. :idunno:

Let's show all the definitions. LINK

 

noun

1. an act or instance of discriminating, or of making a distinction.

2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit:

racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment:

She chose the colors with great discrimination.

4. Archaic. something that serves to differentiate.

 

By the act of making a distinction between 2 different parties you are discriminating according to definition number 1. Let's go back to the original example, the white supremacist group can and does pay your regular fees so they are no more or no less profitable then any other client yet by doing business with them you BELIEVE that it MAY adversely affect your ability to do business with others. Are you free to discriminate against them?

Let's show all the definitions. LINK

 

noun

1.

an act or instance of discriminating, or of making a distinction.

2.

treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit:

racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

3.

the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment:

She chose the colors with great discrimination.

4.

Archaic. something that serves to differentiate.

 

By the act of making a distinction between 2 different parties you are discriminating according to definition number 1. Let's go back to the original example, the white supremacist group can and does pay your regular fees so they are no more or no less profitable then any other client yet by doing business with them you BELIEVE that it MAY adversely affect your ability to do business with others. Are you free to discriminate against them?

 

I already said I wouldn't turn down business from them or anyone else because of their beliefs. Only thing I look at is $$. So if you want to call that discrimination, be my guest.

Is it true that the Apple CEO is calling for a boycott of Indiana over this but Apple just opened a new store in Saudi Arabia where they KILL GAY PEOPLE? Sounds more then a little hypocritical to me.

I wonder how they are going to keep me out of the Victoria's Secret changing room now... They can't discriminate, right...

Is it true that the Apple CEO is calling for a boycott of Indiana over this but Apple just opened a new store in Saudi Arabia where they KILL GAY PEOPLE? Sounds more then a little hypocritical to me.

 

Or is it true what I heard that Andrew Cuomo wants to stop all NY employees from going to Indiana but yet is going to CUBA (that wonderful country who treats all of its gay citizens so well) himself?? Ugh...

I have not read this entire thread. Has anyone shown how many times the current laws on the books related to this matter have been proven to be discriminatory against anyone? How many times have these laws been used to protect businesses in defending their beliefs?

Is it true that the Apple CEO is calling for a boycott of Indiana over this but Apple just opened a new store in Saudi Arabia where they KILL GAY PEOPLE? Sounds more then a little hypocritical to me.

 

I bet Saudi businesses don't have to force themselves to have gay customers.

I have not read this entire thread. Has anyone shown how many times the current laws on the books related to this matter have been proven to be discriminatory against anyone? How many times have these laws been used to protect businesses in defending their beliefs?

 

NONE. This is all politics, intolerance and ignorance from the left.

I'm confused as to when a business can refuse to do business and when they can't.

 

If a business owner is of the mindset to not do business with, for example, gays wouldn't he/she just do a crappy job? Cater cold food? Misspell the names on the invitations?

Is it true that the Apple CEO is calling for a boycott of Indiana over this but Apple just opened a new store in Saudi Arabia where they KILL GAY PEOPLE? Sounds more then a little hypocritical to me.

 

I think you are going to see more of this. A lot of these folks best be careful because a lot of hypocrisy is going to be uncovered soon.

Wal-Mart is asking the governor to veto this legislation.

 

Speaking of hypocrisy, I find this one the most hilarious. Money talks, but Wal-Mart is the last place I want to look towards for a moral compass on how and where to conduct business. I am sure they will be pulling activities from China, India, Ghana, etc.

Sounds like the amendment to this includes language to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

 

I believe it also includes exemptions for religious organizations and not-for-profits.

I'm confused as to when a business can refuse to do business and when they can't.

 

If a business owner is of the mindset to not do business with, for example, gays wouldn't he/she just do a crappy job? Cater cold food? Misspell the names on the invitations?

 

Then you've used a lot of resources and won't get paid or you will get sued. Plus, I imagine that type of performance will get negative comments out to potential customers even more than if you had refused to do business with them in the first place. Tough situation.