February 10, 201511 yr When the Reds signed him the Reds looked like they were in a great spot and in great shape to win Championships, and he was one of the keys to that. He had gotten better each year and was just the MVP. He was looking for a big contract, and probably would have left rather than just sign a 3 or 4 year deal. If the Reds would have let him go, people would be complaining how we never go for it when we have a chance. Well the Reds went for it and to go for it locking him up was one of the keys. Has it worked out nope, but I don't know how people can try to act like it was something that at the time was a bad deal. It was something that looked like a great deal at the time, and something that looked like it put the Reds in a position to truly play for Championship for the next few years after the deal was signed. I for one much rather them go for it, rather than play for the future like I had to see from 96 all the way until 2009 or so. I don't know of anyone that knew anything about baseball that thought a 10 year contract that took him through his 30's was a good idea.
February 11, 201511 yr I don't know of anyone that knew anything about baseball that thought a 10 year contract that took him through his 30's was a good idea. Totally agree...especially with a smaller market team like the Reds, who cannot afford a LONG BAD contract.
February 11, 201511 yr I anticipate he hits somewhere between .300-.320 with 20-25 HRs, 80-100 RBI, an OBP of somewhere around .420-.430, and about 40 2B's. I'll take the under, the under, the under, the under, and the under. I will do backflips if his line looks like your post. Unless he has a hot tub time machine in his crib, I'd say it is beyond realistic expectations for a guy that I'm not sure is healthy structurally or otherwise.
February 11, 201511 yr I'll take the under, the under, the under, the under, and the under. I will do backflips if his line looks like your post. Unless he has a hot tub time machine in his crib, I'd say it is beyond realistic expectations for a guy that I'm not sure is healthy structurally or otherwise. This^, and you can't fix otherwise.
February 11, 201511 yr I'll take the under, the under, the under, the under, and the under. I will do backflips if his line looks like your post. Unless he has a hot tub time machine in his crib, I'd say it is beyond realistic expectations for a guy that I'm not sure is healthy structurally or otherwise. I tend to agree although there is a 0% chance I'm physically capable of doing a backflip.
February 13, 201511 yr Author If Votto comes out and plays like UKMF thinks he can and the Reds aren't in contention, do you try to move him while he's hot. Even if you have to eat some of his contract. Even if the Reds ate $10M a year it would clear up $15M a year going forward.
February 13, 201511 yr If Votto comes out and plays like UKMF thinks he can and the Reds aren't in contention, do you try to move him while he's hot. Even if you have to eat some of his contract. Even if the Reds ate $10M a year it would clear up $15M a year going forward. If you commit to rebuild, you certainly have to think about it. While it hurts to eat $10M a year for nothing in return, it might hurt more to pay a guy $25M a year on a 4th or 5th place club. If he was a clubhouse guy to build around (like, for example, Rolen or Jeter or Posey [evidently]), you could make a case for keeping him around. I don't think you can make that case for Votto. Best case scenario, Bluejays are in the hunt and are willing to overpay to bring a Canadian home.
February 13, 201511 yr Author You think the Reds are going to eat $100M of his contact? :lol2: $100,000,000 Especially when you could use the extra $150M on someone else.
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