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Joey Votto...Expectations!!!

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I have zero expectation for Votto. That way it's easier when he continues on his current path.

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If he hits the to the back of his baseball card and 20 HRs, I'd be happy. Same for BP and Bruce.

 

If they're going to contend, others need to exceed the back of their baseball card. Top Candidates: Frazier, Meso & Bailey.

 

Those without a baseball card (with enough history to matter) need to progress: Hamilton & Cingrani

If he hits the to the back of his baseball card and 20 HRs, I'd be happy. Same for BP and Bruce.

 

If they're going to contend, others need to exceed the back of their baseball card. Top Candidates: Frazier, Meso & Bailey.

 

Those without a baseball card (with enough history to matter) need to progress: Hamilton & Cingrani

Yep, it's a big one.

I have zero expectation for Votto. That way it's easier when he continues on his current path.

 

Nor do I.

.317 avg., 21 HRs, 84 RBI, .404 OBP, 38 2Bs, and 27 SBs

 

That's McCutchen's line from 2013 when he won the MVP. If Votto puts up the numbers I mentioned, he's worth every bit of his contract IMO.

 

McCutchen made $4.5 million in 2013.

 

In 2018 (his last year with the Pirates), he'll earn $14.75 million.

McCutchen made $4.5 million in 2013.

 

In 2018 (his last year with the Pirates), he'll earn $14.75 million.

 

One of the best contracts in the game

McCutchen made $4.5 million in 2013.

 

In 2018 (his last year with the Pirates), he'll earn $14.75 million.

 

If he puts up MVP numbers, he's worth every penny of his contract. Whether that be $5M a year, $15M a year, or $20M+ a year. JMO

I have zero expectation for Votto. That way it's easier when he continues on his current path.

 

Pessimist.

Pessimist.

If that means realist, I'm that

Votto will get hurt or have "vertigo" again. It's almost a certainty.

If that means realist, I'm that

 

Whatever, Debbie

Whatever, Debbie

 

Yeah, I have to log off, my quads are hurting.

Going to go with .308, 23 HR, 78 RBI. And I'm hoping that this all comes in about 145-150 games...not because he is injured, but that they demand he take a few days off here and there.

When the Reds signed him the Reds looked like they were in a great spot and in great shape to win Championships, and he was one of the keys to that. He had gotten better each year and was just the MVP. He was looking for a big contract, and probably would have left rather than just sign a 3 or 4 year deal. If the Reds would have let him go, people would be complaining how we never go for it when we have a chance. Well the Reds went for it and to go for it locking him up was one of the keys. Has it worked out nope, but I don't know how people can try to act like it was something that at the time was a bad deal. It was something that looked like a great deal at the time, and something that looked like it put the Reds in a position to truly play for Championship for the next few years after the deal was signed. I for one much rather them go for it, rather than play for the future like I had to see from 96 all the way until 2009 or so.

When the Reds signed him the Reds looked like they were in a great spot and in great shape to win Championships, and he was one of the keys to that. He had gotten better each year and was just the MVP. He was looking for a big contract, and probably would have left rather than just sign a 3 or 4 year deal. If the Reds would have let him go, people would be complaining how we never go for it when we have a chance. Well the Reds went for it and to go for it locking him up was one of the keys. Has it worked out nope, but I don't know how people can try to act like it was something that at the time was a bad deal. It was something that looked like a great deal at the time, and something that looked like it put the Reds in a position to truly play for Championship for the next few years after the deal was signed. I for one much rather them go for it, rather than play for the future like I had to see from 96 all the way until 2009 or so.

 

10 year contracts are always a bad deal especially to 30 year old players. Show me one that worked out to be a good deal other than maybe Derek Jeter's and I think they paid him more for services rendered than future play.

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