Because they can participate in both.

 

If you believe that the All-A winner is indeed the State Champion and has the right to call themselves State Champion, then is it fair to be allowed to participate in both? 2 chances for some schools, but only 1 for everyone else?

A couple of you give WAY more credence/recognition to the All A than I think it really merits insofar as state wide. Ask kids about the "all A" basketball tournament at a school who doesn't participate in it, and you are very likely to get a blank stare and a "what's that"? Probably the same from many adults as well. Not denigrating the tournament, just saying that those that don't participate in it either don't know anything about it or don't give it a thought one way of the other.

If you believe that the All-A winner is indeed the State Champion and has the right to call themselves State Champion, then is it fair to be allowed to participate in both? 2 chances for some schools, but only 1 for everyone else?

 

I believe they are the All A state champion. Not THE state champion.

 

Like I said before they participate because they can. If you don't recognize it as a state tournament then why are so worked up about it. To you it is not a state tournament so they are just participating in one.

 

In the late 90s Russelville decided not to play in the All A because they wanted to concentrate on the end of the year. They probably could have won an All A State but they chose not too.

Go check all of LB's posts, or go check the HC website and FB pages. U think the winner of the LIT had a school assembly? Everyone says it not treated like a "State Championship". Sure seems to be.

 

I have looked around and I have to agree with some others, it's a big deal to the A Schools that participate in it and not a big deal to those that don't.

 

I don't know, but if they had an assembly I hope Bishop Kurtz was there and gave someone the day off !

 

To throw a new wrench into this, what about the independent schools that are not KHSAA members, compete in their own divisions and hold both statewide and national championships for their classes. Are they not champions of their respective leagues, states, nation, for their classification ? They don't get to play in 2, just the one…They have banners, I bet they might even get T-shirts…...

"What's in a name? that which we call a rose

By any other name would smell as sweet;"

I have looked around and I have to agree with some others, it's a big deal to the A Schools that participate in it and not a big deal to those that don't.

 

I don't know, but if they had an assembly I hope Bishop Kurtz was there and gave someone the day off !

 

To throw a new wrench into this, what about the independent schools that are not KHSAA members, compete in their own divisions and hold both statewide and national championships for their classes. Are they not champions of their respective leagues, states, nation, for their classification ? They don't get to play in 2, just the one…They have banners, I bet they might even get T-shirts…...

 

I assume you are speaking of teams that participate in the KCAA and KCSAA and the like? Yep, they have their own state tournament, and both of those organizations have classes as well.

If you believe that the All-A winner is indeed the State Champion and has the right to call themselves State Champion, then is it fair to be allowed to participate in both? 2 chances for some schools, but only 1 for everyone else?

 

Do you have a problem with schools that play in the KCAA and KCSAA calling themselves state champions?

Do you have a problem with schools that play in the KCAA and KCSAA calling themselves state champions?

 

No. They are not KHSAA member schools, do not play other KHSAA member schools during the season, and do not play in the KHSAA post season. Teams in the All-A do all 3. Now we're kind of comparing NCAA to NAIA.

 

But I do know this scary thought - the KCAA also has their own All-A tournament, in fact it's called exactly that. KCAA schools probably average 60 kids total grades 9-12. Why someone feels the need to have a separate KCAA All-A tourney, when the numbers are already that low, is beyond me. What's the enrollment number to qualify to play in the KCAA All-A? Below 25? Below 12?

Then answer this - if the All-A meets all the criteria as a State Championship, then why are all the teams that participate in the All-A also playing in the KHSAA tournament in Feb-March? This is Kentucky, we're supposed to only have 1 champion. And if we had classes, then you would either be in one tournament or the other - not both.

 

Based off what you just said you should be very happy then that the All A exist and crowns an All A State Champion. Because your beating your chest of this is Kentucky were only suppose to have 1 State Champion, wouldn't exist anymore if it wasn't for the All A. The KHSAA probably would have gave in just like all the other states who gave in. Shoot even Indiana who has a rich history like our state gave in and went to classes. So you would think you would be very happy about it, because if it wasn't for the All A. Then we would have classes, and then those classes would be set up just like the All A is to crown a champion for that class. So you are complaining about what exactly?

 

Do you not understand that no one is taking anything away from the KHSAA State Champion. Whoever wins that title is the one the people talk about and remember still because they are the State Champion of all of Kentucky. People know the All A State Champion is just the State Champion for that criteria. Why this is such a big deal to some of you all amazes me.

Based off what you just said you should be very happy then that the All A exist and crowns an All A State Champion. Because your beating your chest of this is Kentucky were only suppose to have 1 State Champion, wouldn't exist anymore if it wasn't for the All A. The KHSAA probably would have gave in just like all the other states who gave in. Shoot even Indiana who has a rich history like our state gave in and went to classes. So you would think you would be very happy about it, because if it wasn't for the All A. Then we would have classes, and then those classes would be set up just like the All A is to crown a champion for that class. So you are complaining about what exactly?

 

Actually, small schools are the ones thanking the All-A...they get to claim a "State Championship", plus go play for another one. At least if the KHSAA went to classes, it would be equal opportunity for all.

 

Explain to me the purpose of the All-A again, because I don't see the tournament winners having any problems competing in Regionals once the KHSAA tourney comes around.

Then answer this - if the All-A meets all the criteria as a State Championship, then why are all the teams that participate in the All-A also playing in the KHSAA tournament in Feb-March? This is Kentucky, we're supposed to only have 1 champion. And if we had classes, then you would either be in one tournament or the other - not both.

 

There is a certain class (A) of schools that get to take a 2nd bite of the apple. :wave:

If you believe that the All-A winner is indeed the State Champion and has the right to call themselves State Champion, then is it fair to be allowed to participate in both? 2 chances for some schools, but only 1 for everyone else?

 

See post #311.

There is a certain class (A) of schools that get to take a 2nd bite of the apple. :wave:

 

You've said twice this thread has taken a wrong turn, yet posts like that are keeping it alive!!

See post #311.

 

How many times have you gotten to post that massive #? You're welcome.

No. They are not KHSAA member schools, do not play other KHSAA member schools during the season, and do not play in the KHSAA post season. Teams in the All-A do all 3. Now we're kind of comparing NCAA to NAIA.

 

But I do know this scary thought - the KCAA also has their own All-A tournament, in fact it's called exactly that. KCAA schools probably average 60 kids total grades 9-12. Why someone feels the need to have a separate KCAA All-A tourney, when the numbers are already that low, is beyond me. What's the enrollment number to qualify to play in the KCAA All-A? Below 25? Below 12?

 

Some of these schools are khsaa members.