January 23, 201511 yr Had the Browns barely covered a spread with the theory they only did so because footballs were deflated, costing millions of dollars to the betting public, you can bet this would be big news and something the NFL would take VERY seriously. The Patriots barely covered the spread?
January 23, 201511 yr The Patriots barely covered the spread?:ohbrother: No, I am highlighting why this is considered a big deal regardless of the team. People keep looking at Sunday's game, it is much bigger than that. A lot of the NFL's popularity is tied to gambling. People will find less (betting) interest if they feel the product is compromised. The fact the game was a blowout is a saving grace for the NFL. Had the game been close? Think of the questions then.
January 23, 201511 yr :ohbrother: No, I am highlighting why this is considered a big deal regardless of the team. People keep looking at Sunday's game, it is much bigger than that. A lot of the NFL's popularity is tied to gambling. People will find less (betting) interest if they feel the product is compromised. The fact the game was a blowout is a saving grace for the NFL. Had the game been close? Think of the questions then. But that's what I don't agree with. It's not a clear competitive advantage. If it were a competitive advantage wouldn't all QBs prefer the ball as deflated as possible? Aaron Rodgers likes his more than 13.5 PSI, as do other QBs. So if that's the case, how is it an advantage?
January 23, 201511 yr But that's what I don't agree with. It's not a clear competitive advantage. If it were a competitive advantage wouldn't all QBs prefer the ball as deflated as possible? Aaron Rodgers likes his more than 13.5 PSI, as do other QBs. So if that's the case, how is it an advantage? That may be true, but it doesn't matter what Aaron Rodgers prefers. Not everyone's grip is the same. Less air in a ball = better grip, generally speaking. Perception = reality. As an aside, how cool was it when there was less air in a basketball and you could palm it?
January 23, 201511 yr As an aside, how cool was it when there was less air in a basketball and you could palm it? I could palm a fully inflated one, so not any different. :lol2:
January 23, 201511 yr I could palm a fully inflated one, so not any different. :lol2: Brady couldn't.
January 23, 201511 yr But that's what I don't agree with. It's not a clear competitive advantage. If it were a competitive advantage wouldn't all QBs prefer the ball as deflated as possible? Aaron Rodgers likes his more than 13.5 PSI, as do other QBs. So if that's the case, how is it an advantage? A deflated one is also easier to catch in cold weather games too. Plus I would assume its easier for the runningbacks to hold on to.
January 23, 201511 yr I love the fact teams push the limits in order to get every advantage possible. This is something the Bengals know nothing about, and that's winning playoff games, and championships! :popcorn:
January 23, 201511 yr I thought they used different balls after half time... I believe so. When I typed that the story I read said they put more air in the existing balls.
January 23, 201511 yr The NFL will find that the balls lose pressure by exposure to ambient conditions and through use. This will all boil over and all the Patriot haters will be red faced. When CNN is running "breaking news" segments about this story... I'm not so sure it's going away anytime soon.
January 23, 201511 yr If that is what happened, IMO it is not cheating. You can't help that the nature took it's course. You did what you were supposed to and the elements naturally caused the pressure to lower. I feel like there is absolutely ZERO chance a football, let alone 11 of 12, lost 15-20% of its air pressure in two hours of being out in temps just barely below 30 degrees. It wasn't THAT cold.
January 23, 201511 yr I feel like there is absolutely ZERO chance a football, let alone 11 of 12, lost 15-20% of its air pressure in two hours of being out in temps just barely below 30 degrees. It wasn't THAT cold. OH, there's not a doubt in my mind they were deflated intentionally and Brady knew all about it. The only thing that will change my mind is for them to prove the balls had a defect.
January 23, 201511 yr Exactly. The one thing I'm fairly certain Brady was/is being dishonest about is that he didn't notice. I'm certain he noticed. So what? In basketball, if a guy tips the ball out of bounds, and the refs incorrectly reward his team the ball, is he supposed to go to the officials and say, "That was off me guys, it's their ball"? Of course not. Interestingly enough, the Browns are being investigated for coaches texting during games. That's cheating. Haven't heard a word about it....Wonder why? How are coaches teaxting to communicate during a game cheating? Also note that if that did give the Browns a "competitive advantage," how far did it get them? Now how far did (potentially) the Patriots competitive advantage get them?
January 23, 201511 yr Another wrinkle to consider. What if the officials didn't exactly measure each ball with a pressure gauge beforehand? Could the NFL be covering for its officials with Deflategate?
January 23, 201511 yr Not really, no. If this were the Browns, it would've never seen the light of day. That is very true and mainly because the Browns don't have a history of cheating.
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