President Obama's "failed" presidency

[PurplePride92]

Obama bashers love to say he is the worst president ever and has been a failure. Why is it no one ever mentions how Mitch McConnell told everyone that the republicans will block his success every chance they get and that they will not compromise with the democrats at all while Obama is the president?

 

How is this fact glossed over especially when we are 6 years into Obama's failure? How is Obama or any president supposed to succeed when the other party is brazenly saying "we will not compromise with you on anything"? This was said before the first Obama inauguration and every word has proven to be true over the years.

 

Seems kind of fishy to me.

[spindoc]

Obama bashers love to say he is the worst president ever and has been a failure. Why is it no one ever mentions how Mitch McConnell told everyone that the republicans will block his success every chance they get and that they will not compromise with the democrats at all while Obama is the president?

 

How is this fact glossed over especially when we are 6 years into Obama's failure? How is Obama or any president supposed to succeed when the other party is brazenly saying "we will not compromise with you on anything"? This was said before the first Obama inauguration and every word has proven to be true over the years.

 

Seems kind of fishy to me.

It's the same story, different perspective, as the last Bush administration.

[PurplePride92]

It's the same story, different perspective, as the last Bush administration.

 

I think the difference is that I don't remember democrats saying "we are going to sabotage the whole Bush presidency". McConnell bragged about it and then they went out and did it. Granted this is the result of our political system being dominated and controlled by two parties that only see money and power. I just don't get why all of the blame is placed at the feet of one man when the entire system is failing us and we sit back and allow it to happen.

 

How long are we going to fight amongst ourselves like a bunch of babies about republicans and democrats and continue to ignore the need for a viable third party? Is a viable third party even possible when there are so many different viewpoints and wants and needs from each of us?

 

To this day all I have seen from our political system and all of these so called politcal pundits is a bunch of people crying about nonsense and nobody doing anything to fix it. The political forum on here is a prime example. A bunch of whiners and no doers. I can whine with the best of us about nonsense. :lol2:

[hidinout]

Voting against his far left liberal policies ( which is a good thing if you claim to be a conservative ) is another kinder gentler way of stating public ally " I hope he fails " . It's that mountain out of a mole hill thing again . Blocking his success means standing up for R values and priorities .. Now whether this approach is good from either side of the isle for our country - that's a whole diff topic . Just my biased opinion but when he rammed Obamacare care thru with zero R votes and public opinion definitely not committed to his approach he scrwed the pooch on his presidency , as far as any bipartisanship goes . He changed the country single handily using the heaviest of tactics in the senate to pass legislation that affects every American , with the support of 49-51 % of the public . 49-51 % were opposed , but history has shown he lied thru his teeth to get it passed-- you can keep your doctor "

[All Tell]

Conversely when has Obama ever tried to work with the other side?

 

How many pieces of legislation has Harry Reid stopped?

 

The Dems want to paint this as a poor us we've been blocked by McConnell when in fact the Dems have done NOTHING to even try to work with the other side.

[hidinout]

They have passed several solid budgets -- lol .

[BlueTip]

Personally, I like it when the President is of a different party than the congressional majority. Less gets done which 99% of the time is a good thing for the country.

 

When you have both branches from the same party you get stuff like the Affordable Healthcare Act.

[ggclfan]

Obama bashers love to say he is the worst president ever and has been a failure. Why is it no one ever mentions how Mitch McConnell told everyone that the republicans will block his success every chance they get and that they will not compromise with the democrats at all while Obama is the president?

 

How is this fact glossed over especially when we are 6 years into Obama's failure? How is Obama or any president supposed to succeed when the other party is brazenly saying "we will not compromise with you on anything"? This was said before the first Obama inauguration and every word has proven to be true over the years.

 

Seems kind of fishy to me.

 

I actually think Obama is the worst president of my lifetime...did not think that was possible to say after Jimmy Carter. While I am not a fan of Bill Clinton as a person, I will say as a President, he did some good things. He was a politician who actually tried to work with the other side...whether it was for his personal gain or that he thought it was best for the country (probably both), he actually tried to work with Republicans. Obama loathes the Republicans and has made it clear from the start that he will not work with them.

 

Also, he is SO FAR left of what any Republican is, it is almost impossible for a Republican to agree with him on almost anything. Obama wants us to believe he is "above" the political scene but I think he is WAY outjobbed. He has never had a real job in his life - what the heck is a community organizer anyway??? I totally disagree with just about anything he says from a political standpoint but I have to accept that more people voted for him than not (twice). However, what is more troubling for me is that he is totally incompetent to run anything. His recent total ineptness on dealing with Iran, Putin, now Isis, Ebola just show how weak and incompetent he is - just a TERRIBLE leader...

[PurplePride92]

Voting against his far left liberal policies ( which is a good thing if you claim to be a conservative ) is another kinder gentler way of stating public ally " I hope he fails " . It's that mountain out of a mole hill thing again . Blocking his success means standing up for R values and priorities .. Now whether this approach is good from either side of the isle for our country - that's a whole diff topic . Just my biased opinion but when he rammed Obamacare care thru with zero R votes and public opinion definitely not committed to his approach he scrwed the pooch on his presidency , as far as any bipartisanship goes . He changed the country single handily using the heaviest of tactics in the senate to pass legislation that affects every American , with the support of 49-51 % of the public . 49-51 % were opposed , but history has shown he lied thru his teeth to get it passed-- you can keep your doctor "

 

 

The bolded is what I am aiming for in this situation and the topic I am on. How can anyone from any one side say "such and such is a failure" when both sides are aiming for the other's downfall? When unions and companies have contract negotiations an impasse is reached when either side won't fairly negotiate and then an arbitrator from the Labor Board has to get involved. Why is our government above this practice? If they can't or won't negotiate in good faith then they all need to be replaced immediately with people who will. As a people we have put up with this for way too long and from what I am seeing from the next generation it is going to get worse.

[Twotoplace]

I actually think Obama is the worst president of my lifetime...did not think that was possible to say after Jimmy Carter. While I am not a fan of Bill Clinton as a person, I will say as a President, he did some good things. He was a politician who actually tried to work with the other side...whether it was for his personal gain or that he thought it was best for the country (probably both), he actually tried to work with Republicans. Obama loathes the Republicans and has made it clear from the start that he will not work with them.

 

Also, he is SO FAR left of what any Republican is, it is almost impossible for a Republican to agree with him on almost anything. Obama wants us to believe he is "above" the political scene but I think he is WAY outjobbed. He has never had a real job in his life - what the heck is a community organizer anyway??? I totally disagree with just about anything he says from a political standpoint but I have to accept that more people voted for him than not (twice). However, what is more troubling for me is that he is totally incompetent to run anything. His recent total ineptness on dealing with Iran, Putin, now Isis, Ebola just show how weak and incompetent he is - just a TERRIBLE leader...

GWB clearly is the worst president in my lifetime. He presided over the destabilization of the Middle East and the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. Obama has done nothing remotely resembling these misdeeds. And lest people label me a partisan hack, I'd put Carter No. 2 on the "worst list."

[PurplePride92]

I actually think Obama is the worst president of my lifetime...did not think that was possible to say after Jimmy Carter. While I am not a fan of Bill Clinton as a person, I will say as a President, he did some good things. He was a politician who actually tried to work with the other side...whether it was for his personal gain or that he thought it was best for the country (probably both), he actually tried to work with Republicans. Obama loathes the Republicans and has made it clear from the start that he will not work with them.

 

Also, he is SO FAR left of what any Republican is, it is almost impossible for a Republican to agree with him on almost anything. Obama wants us to believe he is "above" the political scene but I think he is WAY outjobbed. He has never had a real job in his life - what the heck is a community organizer anyway??? I totally disagree with just about anything he says from a political standpoint but I have to accept that more people voted for him than not (twice). However, what is more troubling for me is that he is totally incompetent to run anything. His recent total ineptness on dealing with Iran, Putin, now Isis, Ebola just show how weak and incompetent he is - just a TERRIBLE leader...

 

The republicans fired first in that fight.

 

That's definitely the perception. I'd like to know exactly what he knew when handling these issues before I judge him on them. The media doesn't get all of the info that he gets so how do we know he made the wrong decisions?

[ggclfan]

GWB clearly is the worst president in my lifetime. He presided over the destabilization of the Middle East and the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. Obama has done nothing remotely resembling these misdeeds. And lest people label me a partisan hack, I'd put Carter No. 2 on the "worst list."

 

The Middle East has been destabilized for a thousand years and will be for another. Cannot solely blame Bush for that. I also find it funny how nobody remembers that everyone thought Hussein had WMD's at the time including the Clintons...but now it is only Bush's fault.

[leatherneck]

Obama bashers love to say he is the worst president ever and has been a failure. Why is it no one ever mentions how Mitch McConnell told everyone that the republicans will block his success every chance they get and that they will not compromise with the democrats at all while Obama is the president?

 

How is this fact glossed over especially when we are 6 years into Obama's failure? How is Obama or any president supposed to succeed when the other party is brazenly saying "we will not compromise with you on anything"? This was said before the first Obama inauguration and every word has proven to be true over the years.

 

Seems kind of fishy to me.

 

As to the bolded, if you are referring to McConnell's comments that he wanted to make President Obama a one term President, you are incorrect about the timing. The assertion that McConnell made the one term president comment prior to President Obama being inaugurated is a complete myth. See: When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a ?one-term president?? - The Washington Post. And yes, that article was in the Washington Post.

 

If you are referring to something else McConnell said, could you provide a link?

 

I get so frustrated (and a bit angry) when someone attempts to blame the Rs for failing to compromise. How many Rs voted for ObamaCare? I'm quite certain the Rs suggested many proposed changes to the law in the hope President Obama would compromise. The fact that not a single R ended up voting for the final bill (not even the more moderate Rs) indicates to me that the President did little if any compromising himself. Results of Roll Call vote: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00396

 

McConnell issued his "one term President" comment after ObamaCare was crammed down McConnell's and the other Rs' throats. Seems to me that the President shouldn't whine about the other side not compromising, after all, he started it. Again, not one R voted for ObamaCare; not even Senator Snowe, a Senator well known for being very centrist and a moderate and being well known as someone willing to compromise.

 

Update: I did find this article: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/10/1118614/-Biden-Mitch-McConnell-vowed-no-cooperation-with-the-Obama-administration-from-the-get-go. Which does support your point that McConnell vowed not to compromise prior to President Obama's inauguration. Unfortunately, there is no solid evidence that McConnell did make that vow. That is, unless you believe what Vice President Biden says and the other rather shaky corroborating evidence. But that still doesn't get past the fact that not one R, not even Senator Snowe, voted for the final ObamaCare bill, which again to me indicates little if any compromise by the President.

Edited October 16, 2014 by leatherneck

[Getslow]

^ "I don't want the president to fail; I want him to change."

 

Man that's a good line. This senatorial campaign has been so awful this year that I sometimes forget what a sharp and shrewd guy McConnell is.

[Jumper_Dad]

If you go back 6 years and look at a post I made, I said something along the lines that "I hoped that I wanted to vote for him in 4 years."

 

It just didn't happen, ACA and Stimulus really turned me off to his way of politics. ACA was passed without being reviewed or vetted outside of the Democrats that wrote the bill, everyone else just had to accept it as it was passed before anyone had a chance to even look at it. So much of the help in the stimulus bill was put off for 3 years to coincide with his reelection bid, many people suffered for 3 years waiting on funding for jobs and other stimulus projects that were timed to hit during the next campaign cycle.

 

The President talked about transparency and then seemed to forget about it the minute he took office.

 

History, not us today, will judge if this was or was not a failed Presidency.