No guns allowed in Chicago... How is that working out again?

B-Ball-Fan there are approximately the same number of legally owned guns in the US as there are people...which is about like it was 20 years ago.

 

So the perception may have changed but the actual number of guns to people ratio is pretty similar to the past.

 

Gun Ownership isn't a "New Obsession" it's just like every thing else, with today's instant media we hear more about guns. Threats by some politicians to ban/limit/confiscate firearms have gun owners/enthusiast more vocal than in the past and Twitter/Facebook and the like give them a voice that wasn't available or heard just 20 years ago.

B-Ball-Fan there are approximately the same number of legally owned guns in the US as there are people...which is about like it was 20 years ago.

 

So the perception may have changed but the actual number of guns to people ratio is pretty similar to the past.

 

Gun Ownership isn't a "New Obsession" it's just like every thing else, with today's instant media we hear more about guns. Threats by some politicians to ban/limit/confiscate firearms have gun owners/enthusiast more vocal than in the past and Twitter/Facebook and the like give them a voice that wasn't available or heard just 20 years ago.

 

All good points and you're so right about social media making people more active with reacting and responding to the daily news, deluging us with even more and more hyperactivity within our world with the abundance of opinions that fly so rapidly around. Not that there's anything exactly wrong with that. Power to the people is not a bad thing.

 

I'll have to say "Wow" though with the statistic you provided in your first sentence as it doesn't make me feel any safer than before, but it is what it is and I'll just have to face reality and stomach that.

 

Sometimes I wonder if for me, turning off the news might not be a bad idea then I won't know what's going on in the world to effect me to feel any worry.

All good points and you're so right about social media making people more active with reacting and responding to the daily news, deluging us with even more and more hyperactivity within our world with the abundance of opinions that fly so rapidly around. Not that there's anything exactly wrong with that. Power to the people is not a bad thing.

 

I'll have to say "Wow" though with the statistic you provided in your first sentence as it doesn't make me feel any safer than before, but it is what it is and I'll just have to face reality and stomach that.

 

Sometimes I wonder if for me, turning off the news might not be a bad idea then I won't know what's going on in the world to effect me to feel any worry.

If it helps any, I have many more guns in my house than people...so that means there are several people that don't have any based on there being about one gun for each person. I'm hoarding them and leaving a few people out of having any :lol2:

If it helps any, I have many more guns in my house than people...so that means there are several people that don't have any based on there being about one gun for each person. I'm hoarding them and leaving a few people out of having any :lol2:

 

Thank you.

 

That helps.

 

You seem like a responsible dude of sound mind, so I'm not worried at all with folks like you having them.

Thank you.

 

That helps.

 

You seem like a responsible dude of sound mind, so I'm not worried at all with folks like you having them.

 

I understand your concerns BBallfan. And, as I have posted, I wouldn't have considered myself a "gun" person...and I am not a hunter. But, just for the heck of it, and to target shoot with my oldest son, I bought a 9mm. After this, I decided if I was going to own it, that I would pursue the CCDW permit. I am glad I did, because it cements in my mind that I have no intentions whatsoever to actually carry the gun with me. The training and awareness was very useful...although tedious at times.

 

So, it is not the CCDW increase in applications that would have me concerned. It would be more people having and carrying guns that haven't had training and permitting. And, that is a number we probably will not get to.

 

I did read where gun sales have dipped pretty significantly this year, so maybe the rush is over.

So, it is not the CCDW increase in applications that would have me concerned. It would be more people having and carrying guns that haven't had training and permitting. And, that is a number we probably will not get to..

 

Exactly. This is why the city of Jeffersontown pays for half (I think half, Deuce can you confirm) of the fee for all J-town residents if that take it at the J-town police department.

 

 

I did read where gun sales have dipped pretty significantly this year, so maybe the rush is over.

 

Saw this too. My guess is things are going back to pre Sandy Hook days. I keep looking at Gun Broker hoping that people realize the over reacted and bought too many guns and start selling them resulting in good deals on the used market but so far, I haven't seen anything too great.

 

I just hope ammunition sales keep slowing down so availability will continue to go up and prices will continue to go down.

How much does this class cost? I've been wanting to do this for awhile.

How much does this class cost? I've been wanting to do this for awhile.

 

The class costs I think 80 or 85 dollar. However, when you get the notice from the state that you passed (if memory serves correct), you have to sumbit something to the state for that background check that Deuce mentioned and there is a small fee for that. When the state does that, they send information to the Sherrif's office and I think you have to pay a small fee for that too. So you sort of get nickeled and dimed through the whole process but I don't believe it exceeds $200. Someone who has been through it recently can probably break it down better.

I understand your concerns BBallfan. And, as I have posted, I wouldn't have considered myself a "gun" person...and I am not a hunter. But, just for the heck of it, and to target shoot with my oldest son, I bought a 9mm. After this, I decided if I was going to own it, that I would pursue the CCDW permit. I am glad I did, because it cements in my mind that I have no intentions whatsoever to actually carry the gun with me. The training and awareness was very useful...although tedious at times.

 

So, it is not the CCDW increase in applications that would have me concerned. It would be more people having and carrying guns that haven't had training and permitting. And, that is a number we probably will not get to.

 

I did read where gun sales have dipped pretty significantly this year, so maybe the rush is over.

 

All good points, and I probably shouldn't have such a knee jerk reaction to think that anyone who is inclined to want a gun is the same type inclined to actually use it. We do know criminals have guns and that's certainly something that can make us uncomfortable, but who knows there could come some not so lucky day when I'm out in public and a criminal goes off, and it's because of a responsible individual who's holding helping to turn my luck and everyone else's luck around and ultimately save us. In these such cases, although unpleasant, you almost just have to fight fire with fire to take down the idiot who started the fire to begin with.

The class costs I think 80 or 85 dollar. However, when you get the notice from the state that you passed (if memory serves correct), you have to sumbit something to the state for that background check that Deuce mentioned and there is a small fee for that. When the state does that, they send information to the Sherrif's office and I think you have to pay a small fee for that too. So you sort of get nickeled and dimed through the whole process but I don't believe it exceeds $200. Someone who has been through it recently can probably break it down better.

 

Cool thanks for the info. I think I'll do this at some point in the near future. I just feel safer travelling at night with a handgun in the car.

Cool thanks for the info. I think I'll do this at some point in the near future. I just feel safer travelling at night with a handgun in the car.

 

From the KSP website:

 

An applicant for a CCDW license must complete an application form at the sheriff's office in his or her county of residence. The applicant must also pay the $60 application fee at the time of application (active and retired peace officers that meet the requirements of KRS 237.110(7) are exempt from paying the application or renewal fee). The sixty-dollar fee is to be allocated as follows:

 

 

• Payment of twenty dollars to the sheriff of your county of residence.
  
• A check or money order for forty dollars (the portion of the CCDW fee allocated to the KSP and the Administrative Office of the Courts by statute) payable to the Kentucky State Treasurer. The KSP will collect the portion of the fee designated for the Administrative Office of the Courts on its behalf.
  

The class costs I think 80 or 85 dollar. However, when you get the notice from the state that you passed (if memory serves correct), you have to sumbit something to the state for that background check that Deuce mentioned and there is a small fee for that. When the state does that, they send information to the Sherrif's office and I think you have to pay a small fee for that too. So you sort of get nickeled and dimed through the whole process but I don't believe it exceeds $200. Someone who has been through it recently can probably break it down better.

 

When you go to the Sheriff's Office to send off your information you pay a fee of $60 to the KSP ($40) and Sheriff's Office ($20) and then when your permit comes in you just pick it up.

 

Whole thing should run around $140 or less depending on the cost of the class for the first time and then it is $60 every 5 years to maintain it.

 

Some states renewal is more (Louisiana is $125 every 5 years) and some are less

I did the class in KY and OH, the hardest part is getting up and sitting through it.

From the KSP website:

 

An applicant for a CCDW license must complete an application form at the sheriff's office in his or her county of residence. The applicant must also pay the $60 application fee at the time of application (active and retired peace officers that meet the requirements of KRS 237.110(7) are exempt from paying the application or renewal fee). The sixty-dollar fee is to be allocated as follows:

 

 

• Payment of twenty dollars to the sheriff of your county of residence.
  
• A check or money order for forty dollars (the portion of the CCDW fee allocated to the KSP and the Administrative Office of the Courts by statute) payable to the Kentucky State Treasurer. The KSP will collect the portion of the fee designated for the Administrative Office of the Courts on its behalf.
  

 

I paid $75 for my CCDW class. I would encourage you to shop around on line.