Irresponsible gun owners?

350,000,000 legally owned firearms in the US...approximately 590(in 2011) accidental deaths...of those 102 were under 18 years old and of those 51 were under 13. All Tragic, but far less than dangerous than many would assume.

 

6,000 deaths from falling at home

5,000 deaths from accidental poisoning

3,000 deaths from home fires and burns

1,000 deaths from choking

800 deaths from drownings at home

 

Never would have guessed accidental poisoning was that common. I wonder if this is from kids getting into the household bug killer and such?

 

I remember growing up my dad storing all bug and weed killers in an old but sturdy as Fort Knox chest with a monster pad lock on it. When the key bent and would not open the pad lock, I thought he would never get that thing open. I forget how many hack saw blades he dulled down trying to saw off that giant pad lock - lol.

I didn't take the test a few months ago when I had planned on it. Something came up and I wasn't able to make it to the class.

 

That makes sense. I was thinking you were taking the class and the test around the time of the first BGP get together at Molly's which was a while ago.

I don't have a concealed carry permit but often carry a weapon. Robbing this guy would be a mistake, permit or not.

I don't have a concealed carry permit but often carry a weapon. Robbing this guy would be a mistake, permit or not.

 

I would recommend going ahead and getting your permit. I think doing so just look favorably among gun community and helps takes away the ignorant stereotype of all gun owners being out of control outlaws.

Back to concealed carry permits soaring, any increase in Louisville could be a result of the mob attacks that happened in Louisville in the spring and the stupid purge that happened a month ago or so.

 

Unfortunately a Kroger in Memphis Tennessee had a terrible instance not long ago. A mob of young people over ran the store and someone recorded members of the mob taking turns beating a customer unconscious and when two people went to help him, they beat them unconscious also. No one was killed and the three for some reason refused to go to the hospital.

I don't have a concealed carry permit but often carry a weapon. Robbing this guy would be a mistake' date=' permit or not.[/quote']

 

I open carry more than not, and I look presentable when I carry, meaning I don't have scruffy looking clothes and look I sane, and like I just may be on some sort of protection field, which I am.

 

But I agree, get your permit, anyone will learn at least a little no matter how much they know, especially about the laws. Such as carrying into a bar, or university properties.

 

Then, if you ever choose to conceal, you can.

I don't have a concealed carry permit but often carry a weapon. Robbing this guy would be a mistake, permit or not.

I can't blame you. But legally you can't conceal it without a permit. Not a fan of that either.

I open carry more than not, and I look presentable when I carry, meaning I don't have scruffy looking clothes and look I sane, and like I just may be on some sort of protection field, which I am.

 

But I agree, get your permit, anyone will learn at least a little no matter how much they know, especially about the laws. Such as carrying into a bar, or university properties.

 

Then, if you ever choose to conceal, you can.

They give you a pretty solid state by state reg as well.

Unfortunately a Kroger in Memphis Tennessee had a terrible instance not long ago. A mob of young people over ran the store and someone recorded members of the mob taking turns beating a customer unconscious and when two people went to help him' date=' they beat them unconscious also. No one was killed and the three for some reason refused to go to the hospital.[/quote']

 

There was a video on TV with two young guys walking out of a store, I think a Walmart, and they shoved this older lady to the ground and stole her purse. Now, even Ben shoving her to the ground and her head hitting the ground could have killed her (look at what happened at Dickmann's in Ft Wright a couple of years ago). Punks like this need to see there are no easy targets, or at least keep them guessing.

They give you a pretty solid state by state reg as well.

Indeed they do!

 

It came in handy last summer when I went to Florida to pick up a friend, that info as well as an app such as Legal Heat

I have been meaning to take the class for years but never have. I'm never too far away from a weapon, but there are times when I wish I could carry concealed. My wife and I both want to take the class and working out our schedules has been part of the issue with our delay.

The portion of the class taught by an instructor is fairly interesting. The part that is a recording put on by the state about KY laws is the most boring 45 minutes you will spend in your life. I don't know what the state could have done to make the section more monotonous and dreadful. I think if law enforcement used it, it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment. You could work a confession out of someone if you forced them to watch it till fessing up.

Currently taking around 6 weeks +/- to get permit back after you submit everything for it from the KSP. It picks up in the fall, so if your going to get your permit I'd go soon.

Currently taking around 6 weeks +/- to get permit back after you submit everything for it from the KSP. It picks up in the fall, so if your going to get your permit I'd go soon.

 

Used to be about 15 weeks so they are getting better.

My first gut feeling is one that with more people owning guns it doesn't make me feel any safer.

 

In fact now I feel less safe living in a society that has become more and more preoccupied with guns and raising children to have the same mindset as if it's just so commonplace.

 

Kids see their world as they are raised in it with not much perspective to relate it to anything else. They've not the benefit to remember a time where it wasn't exactly so commonplace and we all know that kids are so curious and have a propensity to play games like war and cops and robbers love to have toy guns. If some know that a real one is in the house it's not too hard to imagine them wanting to play with it.

 

We've talked about this before and many have said growing up in rural surroundings it's always been commonplace, but for me in the inner city it really wasn't.

 

Sure, many probably had guns near me but just didn't discuss it, and true if the criminals are going to have them it would be safe for law abiding citizens to have them.

 

As you can see I'm not exactly sure what I think about all this to state my feeling in an absolute way, but still more guns everywhere seems like a recipe for disaster.

 

I certainly understand people wanting to be able to protect ones self but I don't trust even the average citizen from not having a bad day and going off if someone ticks them off in normal everyday stuff like road rage.

 

If a brownie is on the table I'm likely to eventually eat it. It there are no brownies on the table chances are I'll get through the day without eating any brownies. With more availability of guns, logic would suggest you will see some upswing in some people shooting others who in the past likely wouldn't have simply because one was not available for them to do so.

 

Just today I was browsing $1 DVD's in a pawn shop full of guns with various customers checking the guns out.

 

Knowing the type of characters that live in my town, and now even more heroin addicts, when we had enough degenerates running free in my town in the past to begin with, it really doesn't make me feel safer in my town knowing that more and more of these type folks might have access to guns.

 

Perhaps they themselves may not pass clearance, but who's to say that someone they know does and they get ahold of the gun just because they can?

 

When I saw some of the people today looking at guns I was thinking to myself "Yeah right, I'd feel more safe in this town with the likes of you owning a gun"

 

NO WAY!!!

 

This new obsession only makes me feel like spending more time in my dwelling place rather than getting out among people, and I'm not real happy feeling that way. Now at a festival or such I'm wondering how many crazies are walking around with guns.

 

It used to be in my neighborhood that some of the low lifes would attend festival in order to locate someone they've been longing to find to hurt because of some past problems they had with them, and after tons of beer drinking there'd likely be reports of fights from the likes of those type characters right in the middle of the festival. Add guns to the equation and you can count me out. Germanfest no longer sounds like a fun event with that to worry about.