BirdBrain Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 It's that time of year…we are all bombarded with political mailings that the majority of us throw out after a potential cursory glance. I have been receiving a lot of anti-Bevin mail from the McConnell camp saying the same thing over and over and over. Mitch has been around a long, long time and every election cycle I hear the "Ditch Mitch" campaign up and running. What are the real issues that BGP'ers see with these two ? My caveat, I'm not sure that this isn't a lesser of two evils election, so I'm not a supporter of either, just would like to hear some chatter about what everyone's opinions are as I think this could be a pivotal elected position for KY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Tell Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Point 1. Matt Bevin can't win the general if he wins the nomination. He doesn't have the fund raising machine or the political skills to beat what Jerry Lundegran and the rest of the Dem machine will throw at him. Point 2. Harry Reid MUST lose the leadership position. He is the real cause of gridlock in Washington. Point 3. I'm not particularly a McConnell fan but he is head and shoulders better the ALG who will just be a talking head for the Obama/Reid faction. While I agree very strongly with many of the Tea Party's ideas I blame them for still having Harry Reid as leader and for losing a seat in Indiana and giving one away in Missouri. Those who say McConnell and the rest of the establishment R's must be punished (like Luger in Indiana) are doing so at the cost of the country overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75center Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 While I agree with much of what you're saying Harry Reid is just a cog in the machinery causing gridlock in DC. Everyone up there is playing his/her part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpapa Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 While I agree with much of what you're saying Harry Reid is just a cog in the machinery causing gridlock in DC. Everyone up there is playing his/her part. This. I miss the old days when folks actually hammered out deals and got things done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonels_Wear_Blue Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Not a Mitch fan....but this is interesting about his rival: Matt Bevin attended cockfighting rally "U.S. Senate candidate Matt Bevin took part in a rally Saturday planned to support the legalization of cockfighting in Kentucky." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75center Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 This. I miss the old days when folks actually hammered out deals and got things done. That was because it was ok to let the other guy win a little if you got something you wanted. Now from day one it's all about getting re-elected and you can't let the other guy claim a win. So everybody loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 For those who don't believe Bevin can win the general election, I present to you Senator Rand Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepRock01 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 For those who don't believe Bevin can win the general election, I present to you Senator Rand Paul. Rand Paul had an advantage right out of the gate though in the sense that he had the name recognition of being the son of Ron Paul. Bevin doesn't have that same recognition level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Schue Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The Bevin campaign is very cash-strapped and desperate right now. I don't see him being able to put up much of a real fight. I do think, however, that Paul's guy, Jesse Benton, is actively sabotaging McConnell's campaign. They're doing what they can in the way of silly missteps to keep Bevin in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpapa Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 That was because it was ok to let the other guy win a little if you got something you wanted. Now from day one it's all about getting re-elected and you can't let the other guy claim a win. So everybody loses. That's right. A compromise was something where neither side was jumping for joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdBrain Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I guess my struggle is to keep a guy that "might" do the work the way I want or try to get a guy in who I really know little to nothing about. On that note, I was shocked about the whole Duke and Randall commercials a couple weeks ago…how does that happen when you are a Senator from KY ? Was that purely a mistake or was something more deviant ? I think we should fire all of them in D.C. and start over. Doesn't seem to me that anyone on either side wants to do what the people want, only what is politically hot for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Tell Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 For those who don't believe Bevin can win the general election, I present to you Senator Rand Paul. Rand Paul had Daddy's last name and machine (kind of like ALG) and he was running against a very unlikable Jack Conway. Bevin is a complete unknown and as much as is loathe her politics Grimes is a likable candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 McConnell is visiting my little home town of Booneville today. I know Owsley County with a population of 4,500 won't have much influence in determining whether he wins or loses, but he usually wins the county by a large margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherneck Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This. I miss the old days when folks actually hammered out deals and got things done. Ironically, McConnell's willingness to hammer out deals and compromise is the very reason the Tea Party folks can't stand McConnell and are supporting Bevin so fervently. McConnell has his flaws; no doubt about it. But I will be voting for him. Much better choice for the country and Ky than Bevin is, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Tell Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ironically, McConnell's willingness to hammer out deals and compromise is the very reason the Tea Party folks can't stand McConnell and are supporting Bevin so fervently. McConnell has his flaws; no doubt about it. But I will be voting for him. Much better choice for the country and Ky than Bevin is, in my opinion. Outstanding post. I listened to Bevin on the radio today. He categorically states that he will never compromise even if it means that nothing gets done. I'm more convinced then ever that we can not afford to lose this seat and Bevin can not keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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