February 21, 201412 yr I your post you state congress as in the United States congress. You also state about religion. Again God is not. Religion The First Amendment has been applied to the states via the 14th Amendment. Any discussion of "god" is necessarily a religion of some sort, no matter how you slice it.
February 21, 201412 yr The First Amendment has been applied to the states via the 14th Amendment. Any discussion of "god" is necessarily a religion of some sort, no matter how you slice it. God is not a religion though. That would be like saying Obama is the Government. First off, many religions have differing views of what God is.
February 22, 201412 yr God is not a religion though. That would be like saying Obama is the Government. First off, many religions have differing views of what God is. I recognize your point but what really has to be asked is how does the Supreme Court interpret the use of the words religion and God. What is the precedent?
February 22, 201412 yr God is not a religion though. That would be like saying Obama is the Government. First off, many religions have differing views of what God is. Well, just step right on over to P&R where the majority DO believe Obama is the Government. :lol:
February 22, 201412 yr I recognize your point but what really has to be asked is how does the Supreme Court interpret the use of the words religion and God. What is the precedent? I think the way the ky lawmakers worded it is pretty messed up. Even with that I don't think God is a religion
February 22, 201412 yr The next case I try will be my first so.... I don't think the use of a generic "God" without citing or attributing words to a certain religion violates the Constitution. Ohio was taken to court over their "With God, all things are possible" motto. Ohio won . This
February 22, 201412 yr With that said there is NO doubt this is a 100% Christian-based motto. Depends on where you are at, exact same statement in the middle east could be referred to as an Islamic message. My Cardiologist who is Jewish and my wife's neurosurgeon who is Islamic are on exact opposite ends of the religious spectrum...but they both believe in God as do Christians and just about every religion.
February 22, 201412 yr Well, just step right on over to P&R where the majority DO believe Obama is the Government. :lol:And others believe he's the second coming... :lol2:
February 22, 201412 yr I've read a few articles on this issue, including the above, and I have a couple of observations. 1. I don't see the point of the law in the first place. Posting that plaque on a building is going to do nothing but stir controversy. It certainly isn't going to enhance the ability of the DHS to protect the Commonwealth's citizens, be they Christian, Jew, Atheist or none of the above. It seems like an attempt to just put a personal belief out there for discussion, but in a badly worded way. 2. Where did we get that Atheists can be imprisoned for a year for not believing in God? The law requires the plaque to be installed on the KY DHS building, but I can't find anything stating that the law requires anyone to adhere to a belief system. If that is the case, then the director of the KY DHS I guess would be the only person in danger of jail time and that would be only if he refused to install the plaque. 3. If I am wrong on #2 and the law does indeed require citizens to adhere to a belief in God, then please point me to it so I can read it. If that is part of the law then it is asinine and should be repealed immediately.
February 22, 201412 yr I've read a few articles on this issue, including the above, and I have a couple of observations. 1. I don't see the point of the law in the first place. Posting that plaque on a building is going to do nothing but stir controversy. It certainly isn't going to enhance the ability of the DHS to protect the Commonwealth's citizens, be they Christian, Jew, Atheist or none of the above. It seems like an attempt to just put a personal belief out there for discussion, but in a badly worded way. 2. Where did we get that Atheists can be imprisoned for a year for not believing in God? The law requires the plaque to be installed on the KY DHS building, but I can't find anything stating that the law requires anyone to adhere to a belief system. If that is the case, then the director of the KY DHS I guess would be the only person in danger of jail time and that would be only if he refused to install the plaque. 3. If I am wrong on #2 and the law does indeed require citizens to adhere to a belief in God, then please point me to it so I can read it. If that is part of the law then it is asinine and should be repealed immediately. I agree. Same thing I said in post #3
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