All I know is, when I was in school and you were summoned to the principal's office, there was seemingly a collective gasp by the rest of the class. And yes, if you got in trouble at school, the punishment at home was often worse than anything the school could dish out.

 

But nowdays, if a kid gets called to the principal's office, I've seen them smile and joke and be almost smug about the fact that they're getting out of class for a bit...because they know the only thing the principal is going to do is talk sternly to them, or sit them at a desk in another room. And you can almost forget about calling home. Seems like a good majority of kids come from one parent households, where the mother or father is just trying to get by. Certainly you still make the call. But, don't hold your breath on the parent always being the "enforcer".

 

I applaud everyone on here who has kids who takes such an interest in what goes on at school. But, often times that isn't the case. Many times the school is the only structured environment the kid experiences. So, that's why I don't have a problem with them teaching that certain deeds have consequences.

I have the utmost confidence that Ron Dawn and Carl Foster can put the fear of Jesus in my daughter without resorting to corporal punishment.

Terrific strategy by the way. However, had that been in my home as a student, and I had to say those things over the phone to my mother who was a homemaker, I'd have gotten the whippin' when dad got home. So, either way, the spanking was a deterrent. If folks are fine with the parent doing it in lieu of a school person of whatever capacity, I guess I agree with that. But I'm all for the corporal punishment as deterrent. I'm living testament that it works. My sons are as well.

 

:popcorn: I'm waiting for the RTS response. :lol2:

:popcorn: I'm waiting for the RTS response. :lol2:

Yep, quid pro quo I guess.:isurrender:

Paddling came to the forefront in Covington in the mid 80's, I believe when a teacher was sued and lost for administering an abusive spanking of a student. I remember it well because it changed everything for most districts in Kentucky. Some districts still paddle or did a couple of years ago.

 

Although, I paddled as a teacher and principal, I did stop after this incident. It wasn't worth losing my job.

 

It really never changed a student's behavior long term. Punishment should be administered to change the behavior of a kid. That was always my focus as an educator and parent. Didn't always work, but I could usually find something that worked with kids. But it was different sometimes for the same behavior.

 

In reality, about 5-10% (reflection of society) of kids will not respond to almost any type of consequence. Intervention and alternative atmospheres had to done with sometimes substantial costs.

I'm of two minds on paddling. I went to a Parochial grade school and a public middle and high school. All of them employed corporal punishment. In grade school I was the recipient on numerous occasions, it was more annoying then painful, in middle school only once and never in high school. The change happened because the middle school paddling HURT and I didn't want it repeated. Corporal punishment is effective on some and not on others. If I was a teacher I probably wouldn't choose to use a paddle if it were an option because as Clyde said I would not want to wield it in anger. I do see value in LIMITED use by principals.

I have the utmost confidence that Ron Dawn and Carl Foster can put the fear of Jesus in my daughter without resorting to corporal punishment.

I can tell you Carl Foster was NOT hands off in the 70s.

Whoop your child at home, they don't need it at school...

Whoop them at school too.