You're confusing the hell out of me.

LOL, That was my goal, Now I can finally go to sleep, lol!

 

But, if you could pick 6 BGP males to replace these 6 women, who would they be?

Let's slow this whole thing down. The kid in question has done nothing wrong and no one's talking about regretting him coming to the school and certainly no one is talking about his departure.

 

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Seriously, what the hell happened in this thread?

Easy now......you are missing my point. My point is that Trinity can pretty much doc whatever they want within the bounds of the law. Not saying the kid is the problem.

Yes, many of special needs students are enrolled at Trinity and, as Rockmom said, Trinity's program for helping these students is exemplary and is a model for many other schools in the region.

 

I wasn't aware of this. One of the operative lines in the never-ending public v. private debate is "they don't have to take the special needs kids." I guess my question is, do they have to or don't they? And who decides that?

 

Honestly don't know about checking up on juvenile records but those are typically sealed, right? I know public school boards can sometimes get access to records... does that apply to a private board as well?

 

Those are generally not available to the public. And while I used juvenile delinquents in my example, I wasn't just isolating it to those who've had official charges levied against them, per se, as there are also going to be cases come up where kids who've been kicked out of other schools might show up on the doorstep of another private school looking for third and fourth chances. General disciplinary problem kids.

 

Seriously, what do you guys all think goes on at Trinity on a daily basis?

 

I went to a little podunk high school with about 60 kids in my graduating class. We didn't have football, track, soccer, swimming or any of those other many athletic opportunities that a kid from a school with the resources a Trinity can provide.

 

In other words, I have no clue. No real frame of reference whatsoever beyond what others who were educated in that environment tell me. And that still doesn't paint the total picture because my environment was totally different.

 

 

Still don't know how this turned into the "jump up and down on Trinity" thread since it was just a discussion over whether or not the reality show was a good idea, but we'll keep it going if that's what you guys want. I'm an alumnus and a big believer in Trinity; I'll answer any questions you have that I know the answer to and hopefully point you in the right direction when I don't.

 

I ask questions. It's what I do for a living. Some of them are softballs, and some aren't so easy to tackle. It's the only way to get an accurate picture. Again, I have nothing against Trinity or any other private school.

What does Monica Alinsky have to do with this discussion?

Really? You know good and well that I am referring to your idol, Saul Alinsky.

I will say, our basketball program must have arrived. These discussions usually only arise in relation to basketball. I shudder to think what will happen if lacrosse is ever sanctioned by the KHSAA. Or ice hockey...

 

Well, since it usually takes the rest of the state a few decades to pick up the fringe sports, I think Trinity's success in those sports will be viewed with absolute apathy by the rest of the state. At least, until they start their own programs.

LOL, That was my goal, Now I can finally go to sleep, lol!

 

But, if you could pick 6 BGP males to replace these 6 women, who would they be?

 

There aren't any that I can think of. I enjoy the BGP dads. I don't know of any BGP moms that fit this bill either. Not any current ones anyways.

I wasn't aware of this. One of the operative lines in the never-ending public v. private debate is "they don't have to take the special needs kids." I guess my question is, do they have to or don't they? And who decides that?

 

Those are generally not available to the public. And while I used juvenile delinquents in my example, I wasn't just isolating it to those who've had official charges levied against them, per se, as there are also going to be cases come up where kids who've been kicked out of other schools might show up on the doorstep of another private school looking for third and fourth chances. General disciplinary problem kids.

 

No denying that one of the things that helps private schools is being able to ask students not to return. Trinity takes a lot of kids with special needs and learning disabilities because Trinity's alumni and other benefactors have given them the ability to give those students an outstanding education. But Trinity is under no obligation to retain persistent problem students. I don't know how it works or what the numbers are, but there are certainly a lot more students that start in the ninth grade than those receiving a diploma after the 12th.

 

I went to a little podunk high school with about 60 kids in my graduating class. We didn't have football, track, soccer, swimming or any of those other many athletic opportunities that a kid from a school with the resources a Trinity can provide.

 

In other words, I have no clue. No real frame of reference whatsoever beyond what others who were educated in that environment tell me. And that still doesn't paint the total picture because my environment was totally different.

 

Fair enough. I never enrolled in a school that wasn't Catholic until I started graduate school at age 23. I assume that in some respects it's very similar and others very different; the presence of girls on a moment-to-moment basis alone would have been a serious culture shock. Forget what happens at small schools outside the city... no idea.

I have no agenda beyond gathering accurate and reputable information. My brother and his wife live less than a mile from Trinity, and odds are my brother's Catholic influence will win out and the nephew will be going there, which means his uncle will be spending a lot of future time there as well. A soon-to-come niece also figures to be attending a Catholic academy.

 

However, in the interest of full disclosure, the answers to other questions of mine in this thread are interesting in terms of Trinity's — and others similar to it — projection of itself onto the greater world, as well as outsiders' perception of the school. That's unavoidable.

 

You weren't the one I was refering to.

AND THE WALLS CAME TUMBLING DOWN.

 

Feel good to get that off your chest?

 

Here, I'll just come out and say what I meant by that. If he's such an embarrassment to to the program, maybe he would be better off at Ballard. Maybe the next good athlete in middle school will see the situation and feel the same. If the kid's mom is nuts, maybe Trinity should have known that. I'm guessing that kids like him don't just end up at Trinity every day. Hint, hint.

 

Not trying to get at you specifically, but when people are saying things like "this can't be good", "I hope they don't film at Trinity", etc. then I don't know how else you can take it.

Here, I'll just come out and say what I meant by that. If he's such an embarrassment to to the program, maybe he would be better off at Ballard. Maybe the next good athlete in middle school will see the situation and feel the same. If the kid's mom is nuts, maybe Trinity should have known that. I'm guessing that kids like him don't just end up at Trinity every day. Hint, hint.

 

Not trying to get at you specifically, but when people are saying things like "this can't be good", "I hope they don't film at Trinity", etc. then I don't know how else you can take it.

 

 

What about it is good and why would any school want this circus going on?

Good for you. I don't think that a school not allowing video cameras into their gyms is muzzling free speech. I think that is protecting their school and the kids of the school if they don't like the intent of the filming.

 

And you keep using Trinity as an example because the Trinity people voiced their displeasure. I'll never understand people's personal vendetta against Trinity. Jealousy is such an ugly thing sometimes.

 

As I said earlier, no school in our state should allow this filming to take place. As a black man this is nothing but the exploitation of young black males. Again.

Your exploitation concerns might be valid, but one cannot restrict free speech because one disapproves of what the message is or might be. "Protection" is often cited as a reason to muzzle free speech. As far as using Trinity as the example, I have no connection whatsoever to Trinity. I have never even driven by the school. Trinity was introduced into this discussion at post No. 3. Having said that, I most certainly do have problems with how the Catholic Church restricts information -- but I'm not going to reopen that can on this thread.

Here, I'll just come out and say what I meant by that. If he's such an embarrassment to to the program, maybe he would be better off at Ballard. Maybe the next good athlete in middle school will see the situation and feel the same. If the kid's mom is nuts, maybe Trinity should have known that. I'm guessing that kids like him don't just end up at Trinity every day. Hint, hint.

 

Not trying to get at you specifically, but when people are saying things like "this can't be good", "I hope they don't film at Trinity", etc. then I don't know how else you can take it.

 

You're reaching, IMO...

Here, I'll just come out and say what I meant by that. If he's such an embarrassment to to the program, maybe he would be better off at Ballard. Maybe the next good athlete in middle school will see the situation and feel the same. If the kid's mom is nuts, maybe Trinity should have known that. I'm guessing that kids like him don't just end up at Trinity every day. Hint, hint.

 

Not trying to get at you specifically, but when people are saying things like "this can't be good", "I hope they don't film at Trinity", etc. then I don't know how else you can take it.

 

Not one, single person in this thread said that the kid was an embarrassment. Not one.

 

Not one, single person in this thread said his mom was nuts. Not one.

 

There isn't anybody in this thread that is projecting something onto this discussion that isn't there... except one.

Having read all of the posts from a certain anti-Catholic person on the thread as well as some of the other "wisdom" that that person has posted in other threads on this board and at the risk of taking this thread in a direction it probably shouldn't go does anyone besides me find it more then a little ironic (if not down right hypocritical) that that poster is deriding what they feel is an unwarranted restriction of information in the same week that their favorite politician was blasted by the AP for only allowing the "official" White House photographer access to events and only releasing photos they felt were appropriate?

... favorite politician was blasted by the AP for only allowing the "official" White House photographer access to events and only releasing photos they felt were appropriate?

A story this big needs to go on a separate thread. Get the word "Photogate" in the headline.