I really wonder about Trinity if they really play hardball with the producers on this one. To an outsider, I think you would have to realize how this could be perceived. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

Unlike some of the other schools mentioned, they aren't a public school, so they didn't have to take the kid. This is the price any other big time sports programs pay. Caveat emptor?

 

It's one thing if they are looking out for the kid's best interest. It's a completely different thing if they are solely looking out for their own. I know there's more grey area than this, but I think you can infer what I'm getting at.

Unlike some of the other schools mentioned, they aren't a public school, so they didn't have to take the kid. This is the price any other big time sports programs pay. Caveat emptor?

 

1) Nobody was shopping a reality show when he came to school and the show isn't about him, it's about his mom, ostensibly.

 

2)"Big time sports program"? I guess I get how Trinity might look to an outsider... but it's a school, man. Trinity could get rid of football and basketball tomorrow and it would still be one thing for sure: a great school.

 

3) They are looking out for "their own" and "their own" are the students of Trinity High School.

 

I absolutely do not trust reality TV producers and, to be honest, I'm a little shocked by some of the responses in this thread.

1) Nobody was shopping a reality show when he came to school and the show isn't about him, it's about his mom, ostensibly.

 

2)"Big time sports program"? I guess I get how Trinity might look to an outsider... but it's a school, man. Trinity could get rid of football and basketball tomorrow and it would still be one thing for sure: a great school.

 

3) They are looking out for "their own" and "their own" are the students of Trinity High School.

 

I absolutely do not trust reality TV producers and, to be honest, I'm a little shocked by some of the responses in this thread.

 

 

 

1. I understand that, but was just trying to say that sometimes those things "go with the territory" so to speak.

 

2. I understand Trinity is a great school educationally speaking. But there's no denying they've stepped their game up in basketball recently. Could probably say the same for football as well, although the growth was obviously on a different scale since they were already so up.

 

3. Never said there wasn't a grey area with it, in fact, it was something I explicitly mentioned. I just wonder where the lines are drawn with it and how much overlap there is. Maybe a better question would be how much they'd be looking after him if he didn't further their interests so considerably.

 

 

I think the interest of the show will be just as much on the players as their mothers. People will tune in because they recognize the players. I just think that if a kid's family wants to tell their story, and that it's a compelling one, which his appears to be considering, then that's their thing. "Hoop Dreams" is a pretty well known documentary, and part of that was the players struggles and how those were portrayed. I think it can be done in a tasteful way.

 

All that said, I am fine with Trinity stepping in to protect the kid's best interests, but family is family and I'd imagine his mother will be there for him after Trinity is gone. It's one thing for a kid to be a star and the school letting them feel like he'll be taken care of by them for life, but that could change in a heartbeat.

1. I understand that, but was just trying to say that sometimes those things "go with the territory" so to speak.

 

2. I understand Trinity is a great school educationally speaking. But there's no denying they've stepped their game up in basketball recently. Could probably say the same for football as well, although the growth was obviously on a different scale since they were already so up.

 

3. Never said there wasn't a grey area with it, in fact, it was something I explicitly mentioned. I just wonder where the lines are drawn with it and how much overlap there is. Maybe a better question would be how much they'd be looking after him if he didn't further their interests so considerably.

 

 

I think the interest of the show will be just as much on the players as their mothers. People will tune in because they recognize the players. I just think that if a kid's family wants to tell their story, and that it's a compelling one, which his appears to be considering, then that's their thing. "Hoop Dreams" is a pretty well known documentary, and part of that was the players struggles and how those were portrayed. I think it can be done in a tasteful way.

 

All that said, I am fine with Trinity stepping in to protect the kid's best interests, but family is family and I'd imagine his mother will be there for him after Trinity is gone. It's one thing for a kid to be a star and the school letting them feel like he'll be taken care of by them for life, but that could change in a heartbeat.

 

 

What about the best interests of the other kids on the team & their parents?

What about the best interests of the other kids on the team & their parents?

 

That's definitely part of the rub, but the fact is Trinity isn't hitting the road to visit your kids and check up on their well-being. You are.

 

The real quandary is how do you support your kid's endeavors toward high goals — a college scholarship — while not doing it at the expense of the kid's teammates? Obviously, there's no good answer there.

2)"Big time sports program"? I guess I get how Trinity might look to an outsider... but it's a school, man. Trinity could get rid of football and basketball tomorrow and it would still be one thing for sure: a great school.

 

 

Acting as though Trinity is not a big-time sports program is disingenuous at best. While the Trinity and St. X educational experiences speak for themselves, I think it's certainly fair to say that those schools' overall reputations are greatly enhanced by their success in athletics.

 

It's also fair to say that those two schools would never have grown to what they are today without the draw of athletics keeping the alumni checkbooks busy.

What about the best interests of the other kids on the team & their parents?

 

I think what I'm getting at is more of a question of the extent that Trinity thought of those when they accepted him and whether or not this has just become more of an issue now that this is out.

25 years ago, would a kid like this have been playing basketball at Trinity?

 

If the answer is "no", then this may be a "welcome to the big show" moment for them. You can't have your cake and eat it too. When people have brought up the "selection process" at Trinity, there's been lots of talk about how thorough and comprehensive it is, so if you just go on that, you'd think they might have seen this one coming.

 

I'm just saying that schools do a cost-benefit analysis and the decisions that they've made can lead to things like this happening. If it were a public school were their hand were more forced in dealing with the situation, I might feel differently. Is that unfair of me to say? Maybe, but I'm just being honest with how I feel about it.

 

All that aside, I wish all the best for the kid and hope the show portrays him and his family well. I mean that with all sincerity. All other things held constant, if it's the vehicle that lands him a scholarship that he wouldn't have otherwise, then maybe it wasn't so bad after all.

Acting as though Trinity is not a big-time sports program is disingenuous at best. While the Trinity and St. X educational experiences speak for themselves, I think it's certainly fair to say that those schools' overall reputations are greatly enhanced by their success in athletics.

 

It's also fair to say that those two schools would never have grown to what they are today without the draw of athletics keeping the alumni checkbooks busy.

 

 

Exactly. I don't see how you can call the school that won state in football and basketball in the same calendar year, ties for the state lead in football titles in the largest classification, and has won a "national championship" anything but a big time athletics program.

25 years ago, would a kid like this have been playing basketball at Trinity?

 

If the answer is "no", then this may be a "welcome to the big show" moment for them. You can't have your cake and eat it too. When people have brought up the "selection process" at Trinity, there's been lots of talk about how thorough and comprehensive it is, so if you just go on that, you'd think they might have seen this one coming.

 

I'm sorry, maybe I'm not up on this as much as I should be but, what "selection process"? I truthfully don't understand what you mean.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm not up on this as much as I should be but, what "selection process"? I truthfully don't understand what you mean.

 

I'm with Getslow...what is this "selection process"?

You have to apply to get into Trinity, right? I believe he's asking what the criteria is for admission or denial.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm not up on this as much as I should be but, what "selection process"? I truthfully don't understand what you mean.

 

 

It's been said repeatedly that the "admissions" and "financial aid" processes seem to imply that the school has done their homework on the student they are considering. They know enough about them to place them on an academic track suited to their needs.

 

How becoming a part of the Trinity family means you've probably revealed a lot of information about yourself that they've carefully considered, as they want to maintain their brand.

 

 

Just an example, but these are your words in a past thread:

 

"I will come out and say it. I was recruited by Trinity High School. The coach of the academic team was very persistent in wanting me to participate in that activity at Trinity. I was personally invited by team membes to attend the Open House during my 8th grade year and even sit in on a practice. I can say that this was a big reason I came to Trinity and participated in that activity for all 4 years I was there.

 

I also took a class at Trinity during 8th grade year. I was in Mr. Dennis Esterle's Advanced Algebra 1 class that year, a great ploy to attract kids to the school.

 

It's how we keep an edge on the Xaverians. It certainly isn't limited to athletes. I was dead-set on trying to get into Manual's excellent program at the end of my seventh grade year. Looking back, I'm glad I made the choice that I did. Who knows, if it weren't for the recruitment and the scholarship, I might be on this very site arguing about Trinity's unfair advantages..."

 

 

http://bluegrasspreps.com/classic-bluegrasspreps/theman-gives-simple-6558-page8.html

 

 

 

 

If you think I'm trying to harp on Trinity's admission policies over the past few years and what is apparently the completely coincidental rise in the number of basketball games they've won over that period, you've probably got the wrong guy. I've been one of the few on here defending Cordia.

 

 

My whole point has been that, up until this thread, I've seen a pattern where those who seem to know the most about Trinity seem to imply that they have a very thorough admissions process. Maybe it's too much of an "either or", but I think that if it were as stated, that it might have raised some red flags that something like a parent signing on with a reality show could be a possibility. On the other hand, maybe I was wrong in interpreting what I thought had been repeatedly implied. If it's the former, then I think it's sort of unfair to take the kid and defend the policies when your team is doing well, but potentially throw him under the bus by writing it off as a "crazy parent" whose damaging the Trinity legacy when there might have been warning signs that something like this might occur down the road.

You have to apply to get into Trinity, right? I believe he's asking what the criteria is for admission or denial.

 

You take a placement test. The purpose of the test is to determine the academic track in which you'll be placed, not whether you can attend or not. That comes down to the $$$. Trust me...I know.

 

For anyone interested, a simple click here will take you to the info you're seeking.

In a twist of fate, the placement test is being administered Saturday. :lol: