Whatever, still theft. NO matter how you'd prefer the title.

 

How's "Walmart shelves in Springhill, Mansfield, cleared in EBT glitch by abusers of the system."

 

Better?

Better. The trouble with "you don't say" is that the phrase infers such behavior is expected of "these people." All I'm doing is pointing out blatant classist biases that might not be recognizable by long-time contributors to this board.

I actually took you seriously until this line. Now I see the issue.

Yep.

Better. The trouble with "you don't say" is that the phrase infers such behavior is expected of "these people." All I'm doing is pointing out blatant classist biases that might not be recognizable by long-time contributors to this board.

 

 

Classist?

 

You are making assumptions on how I was brought up and what "class" I'm supposedly in.

 

RM's answers and post on here, I respect, because I know some of her background through those post.

 

I'm sick of abuses of the system and sick of the "classist" and "racist" remarks made to those who criticize the wrongs of others.

 

System abuse is not classist, as our elected representatives offer some of the most obvious examples of it and they are "high class" in some of your eyes.

 

 

The "you don't say" I added was more to the fact that someone had to get on the phone to let everyone know that they could get by with what was going on......and then they cleared out a store.

 

 

To lighten the mood I'll leave you with a quote from Dusty Rhodes that sums up my 35 years on this earth perfectly so far - “I have wined and dined with kings and queens and I’ve slept in alleys and dined on pork and beans.”

Yep.

Well, scramble my eggs. Did I actually infer that there might be some south-of-the-Mason-Dixon biases present on this bluegrass board? What was I thinking? Next thing you know ol' Gov. Beshear will sign us up for the Affordable Care Act.

Classist?

 

You are making assumptions on how I was brought up and what "class" I'm supposedly in.

 

RM's answers and post on here, I respect, because I know some of her background through those post.

 

I'm sick of abuses of the system and sick of the "classist" and "racist" remarks made to those who criticize the wrongs of others.

 

System abuse is not classist, as our elected representatives offer some of the most obvious examples of it and they are "high class" in some of your eyes.

 

 

The "you don't say" I added was more to the fact that someone had to get on the phone to let everyone know that they could get by with what was going on......and then they cleared out a store.

 

 

To lighten the mood I'll leave you with a quote from Dusty Rhodes that sums up my 35 years on this earth perfectly so far - “I have wined and dined with kings and queens and I’ve slept in alleys and dined on pork and beans.”

When I decry classism, I'm mainly referring to the habit of many BGP posters to use poor people as punch lines. And then the piling on begins. Don't see many people speaking out against such. I did so today. Your personal life did not enter into the equation.

First, it should make most of you happy to know that federal funding for SNAP is being cut effective Nov. 1.

 

Second, Wal-Mart really should have disallowed the purchases because the system was down. It happened in 17 states, and those purchases were denied by the retailers.

 

Third, what may appear to be an EBT card may also have other funds loaded on it, such as child support payments.

 

Fourth, I'm not sure how you can tell who should or shouldn't be receiving aid, simply by sight.

 

Fifth, if a person has a credit card, that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't needy. And if they are responsibly handling the credit, isn't it better in the long run that they maintain a decent credit score? And isn't it possibly an indication they are getting to the point where they no longer need aid/

 

Sixth, SNAP benefits can be minimal. When I was first divorced and had no job, I received $75/month because there was a child support order. I made 5.00/hr. When I got a raise to $5.25, it was cut to $25/month.

 

I see a lot of generalizations thrown around, and judgements made without any actual knowledge of a stranger's circumstances.

 

I'll be making heftier food donations going forward. The food banks will not be able to fill the gap. My mother gets no SNAP benefits, but she is absolutely dependent on her Feeding America box each month. I take as much as I can to her, and would do more, but with expenses like a new roof, and installing a walk-in shower so she doesn't hurt herself getting in and out of the tub because of her crippling arthritis, I'm cash-strapped myself.

 

Haven't read the rest of this thread, but I must say I admire your devotion to your Mother. That said, isn't this what charity is all about? I hear little mention of the government taking care of your Mom, which is so expected by the "Entitlement Generation". What made America great is that we always have "taken care of our own", not looked to Washington to do it for us--Until lately??

 

Haven't read the rest of this thread, but I must say I admire your devotion to your Mother. That said, isn't this what charity is all about? I hear little mention of the government taking care of your Mom, which is so expected by the "Entitlement Generation". What made America great is that we always have "taken care of our own", not looked to Washington to do it for us--Until lately??

 

Don't admire me. I am doing what needs to be done. My point is that cutting the funding for SNAP is going to be cheered by many, but that many more people are going to need charitable help, and unless we all step up and fill the gap, they aren't going to be able to fill the need. Our story isn't unique in this country. And when there is no one in a particular family able to help, the problems are worse for many than what our family deals with.

 

My other point is that broad generalizations are unfair to the majority who need aid. The fact of the matter is, you have no idea what a person's totality of circumstances may be. To assume they feel "entitled" is wholly incorrect, especially now, when so many who are receiving aid are now on aid. They may still have a decent home, cars and clothes. Yet people make assumptions about them for one reason...they receive aid.

 

This issue reminds me of a saying I think we ALL should say to ourselves when we find ourselves rushing to judgement: There, but for the grace of God, go I.

When thieves like these do their thing it does reflect badly on everyone else in the system. It shouldn't but it is a common mistake made in all walks of life.

Good post. Do you agree what the folks who went back to use the card committed theft? Simple question.

 

And I agree about the foodbank. Some of the most fulfilling work I ever did was volunteering in our former churches food pantry. Partnered with a local food service and served an underprivileged area to the tune of 175 families a month. It was humbling and a great joy.

 

How many actually went back knowing they didn't have money to cover their purchases? Yes, it is theft!

Just like every other program ran by the government there are people that abuse it. If the abuse of the SNAP program was eliminated the funding could cut and services expanded.

 

I've seen $300 wedding cakes purchased with SNAP/Food Stamps. There is currently a push to add fast food to the list of items that may be purchased and there are several unhealthy items available that you see the carts loaded up with each week at the stores. I saw a sign at a local store that will sell you a frozen pizza on your EBT you then can trade it for one that is already cooked...several Convenience type stores will accept EBT/SNAP for anything including beer and lottery tickets.

Well, scramble my eggs. Did I actually infer that there might be some south-of-the-Mason-Dixon biases present on this bluegrass board? What was I thinking? Next thing you know ol' Gov. Beshear will sign us up for the Affordable Care Act.

 

You just called the majority of this board racists.

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How many actually went back knowing they didn't have money to cover their purchases? Yes, it is theft!

 

I would guess that most know "about" how much they have.

If I get too much money back from my taxes by mistake, I am expected to pay back what they gave me extra, my fault or Gov fault, it dont matter, they want the money back. With that said the thieving moochers should have to pay back what they spent and knew was wrong. But I bet in this now Socialist Administration that they wont pay back a dime.

Obama said "That could have been my food stamp card".

Just like every other program ran by the government there are people that abuse it. If the abuse of the SNAP program was eliminated the funding could cut and services expanded.

 

I've seen $300 wedding cakes purchased with SNAP/Food Stamps. There is currently a push to add fast food to the list of items that may be purchased and there are several unhealthy items available that you see the carts loaded up with each week at the stores. I saw a sign at a local store that will sell you a frozen pizza on your EBT you then can trade it for one that is already cooked...several Convenience type stores will accept EBT/SNAP for anything including beer and lottery tickets.

 

In the case of the pizza and beer and lottery tickets, that is an abuse by the retailer?

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