Independents are public schools.

 

Independent school districts have their boundaries and are not 'open enrollment'.

 

I think that the issue is 1 superintendent and 12000 students (private) as opposed to 1 superintendent and 200-1000 students (smaller public school districts).

I don't see the point you are trying to make ARC.

 

There are large private schools (Trinity, X, Assumption, NDA, Lexcath, CovCath) and there are small Privates (Villa Madonna, Lexington Sayre, Covington Latin, Bishop Brossart, NCC) and some in between.

 

I don't see how the size of the Diocese has any impact on this issue.

I don't see the point you are trying to make ARC.

 

There are large private schools (Trinity, X, Assumption, NDA, Lexcath, CovCath) and there are small Privates (Villa Madonna, Lexington Sayre, Covington Latin, Bishop Brossart, NCC) and some in between.

 

I don't see how the size of the Diocese has any impact on this issue.

You don't understand how 12000 students in one school district with one superintedant to oversee the whole program and how certain schools in that district seem to always excel in different areas. Proper distribution of talent I would say. If I were a 6'10 incoming freshman I bet I would be guided to one of three schools in the NKY diocese. I do not think St Pat would even get a chance at me.

You don't understand how 12000 students in one school district with one superintedant to oversee the whole program and how certain schools in that district seem to always excel in different areas. Proper distribution of talent I would say. If I were a 6'10 incoming freshman I bet I would be guided to one of three schools in the NKY diocese. I do not think St Pat would even get a chance at me.

 

 

Well if you lived by St. Pat and was a member of that parish, I don't believe you would end up in Brossart NCC etc. The schools are quite a distance away from St. Pat. I don't think you are too familiar with the Diocese of Covington, being from Eastern Kentucky. If you were a 6'10" Freshman, my guess would be if you didn't go to St. Pat, you would end up at Mason County (a public school). If anything, Ladiesbballcoach has a great point, in that AAU leads to a lot of things, but AAU is played throughout the state. I invite you to come up and watch some Diocesan grade school games, and get familiar with with talent and coaching involved there, before further generalizations are made. (not intended as an attack towards you, but moreso a statement on many clean programs being looped together with others, and people categorizing all privates as the same.)

Well if you lived by St. Pat and was a member of that parish, I don't believe you would end up in Brossart NCC etc. The schools are quite a distance away from St. Pat. I don't think you are too familiar with the Diocese of Covington, being from Eastern Kentucky. If you were a 6'10" Freshman, my guess would be if you didn't go to St. Pat, you would end up at Mason County (a public school). If anything, Ladiesbballcoach has a great point, in that AAU leads to a lot of things, but AAU is played throughout the state. I invite you to come up and watch some Diocesan grade school games, and get familiar with with talent and coaching involved there, before further generalizations are made. (not intended as an attack towards you, but moreso a statement on many clean programs being looped together with others, and people categorizing all privates as the same.)

I guess all of us in Eastern Ky are ignorant to the ways of the great NKY ways. Cmon get real. No one is saying that anything done in the Diocese is dirty and I believe it is a clean program and by directing a 6'10 kid to one of the better basketball programs is not a dirty move but a wise one. The problem is a 6'10 player moving to Eastern Ky will be directed to the school district he resides in. A slight chance of attending a independent but he can not pick the best basketball program in the region. There are residency requiremnets.

Well if you lived by St. Pat and was a member of that parish, I don't believe you would end up in Brossart NCC etc. The schools are quite a distance away from St. Pat. I don't think you are too familiar with the Diocese of Covington, being from Eastern Kentucky. If you were a 6'10" Freshman, my guess would be if you didn't go to St. Pat, you would end up at Mason County (a public school). If anything, Ladiesbballcoach has a great point, in that AAU leads to a lot of things, but AAU is played throughout the state. I invite you to come up and watch some Diocesan grade school games, and get familiar with with talent and coaching involved there, before further generalizations are made. (not intended as an attack towards you, but moreso a statement on many clean programs being looped together with others, and people categorizing all privates as the same.)

 

Maybe you would just move into the parish of Brossart NCC etc.

 

Don't all of those head coaches (NCC, Brossart, etc...) in the Covington diocese answer to one superintendent?

 

As far as the feeder programs, what is to keep the parents of the better players from enrolling them at the same elementary schools/feeders? I am sure that I would do just that...even if it meant driving a few extra miles every day. THERE ARE NO RULES AGAINST IT AND IT IS NOT 'DIRTY' TO DO IT. That is the point- public schools are not coordinated/associated in a way that is conducive to funneling the better athletes to one school.

The problem is a 6'10 player moving to Eastern Ky will be directed to the school district he resides in. A slight chance of attending a independent but he can not pick the best basketball program in the region. There are residency requiremnets.

Haven't there been plenty of transfers in eastern Kentucky over the years, with players leaving to go to "better" programs?

 

You act as if it doesn't happen in the mountains.

Haven't there been plenty of transfers in eastern Kentucky over the years, with players leaving to go to "better" programs?

 

You act as if it doesn't happen in the mountains.

We are not talking about a player here and there we are talking a programatic approach to every kid. There is an occasional transfer in Eastern Kentucky but not a single focused effort to guide and direct certain students to certain programs. One superintendent with the overall purpose of leading a diocese to success in acedemics and athletics. I applaud him for the a job well done.

I imagine if he attended a private high school it would be the one where he lives as well. If he lived in Maysville it would be St. Pats. Bishop Brossart would be the next closest private school but that is about 45 miles north and not very convenient. Not to mention the tuition would be more expensive.

 

A 6'10" private school student in Alexandria would attend Bishop Brossart (Derrick Rhoden). A 6'10" private school student from Latonia/Taylor Mill would attend Holy Cross (Tim Volpenhein). A 6'10" private school student from Covington/Ft. Mitchell would probably attend CovCath (it's been a while). A 6'10" private school student from Newport/Ft. Thomas would attend NCC (don't think they have ever had one). Etc, Etc.

I imagine if he attended a private high school it would be the one where he lives as well. If he lived in Maysville it would be St. Pats. Bishop Brossart would be the next closest private school but that is about 45 miles north and not very convenient. Not to mention the tuition would be more expensive.

 

A 6'10" private school student in Alexandria would attend Bishop Brossart (Derrick Rhoden). A 6'10" private school student from Latonia/Taylor Mill would attend Holy Cross (Tim Volpenhein). A 6'10" private school student from Covington/Ft. Mitchell would probably attend CovCath (it's been a while). A 6'10" private school student from Newport/Ft. Thomas would attend NCC (don't think they have ever had one). Etc, Etc.

Do all students pay tuition or are there any programs that help with needy students or athletes. No negative implication here just asking

The problem is a 6'10 player moving to Eastern Ky will be directed to the school district he resides in. A slight chance of attending a independent but he can not pick the best basketball program in the region. There are residency requiremnets.

 

But let's be realistic. The parent of that 6' 10" player would do reearch before selecting a residence. Making it easier for him to attend the best basketball opportunity for his son.

We are not talking about a player here and there we are talking a programatic approach to every kid. There is an occasional transfer in Eastern Kentucky but not a single focused effort to guide and direct certain students to certain programs. One superintendent with the overall purpose of leading a diocese to success in acedemics and athletics. I applaud him for the a job well done.

You're implying that it happens much more often in northern Kentucky than it does in the mountains. That's a premise of dubious merit.

 

Over the years, we've heard stories about some of the top programs in the mountains (and elsewhere) in the state pursuing top players in other, less successful programs. No one area of the state has the monopoly on that.

Maybe you would just move into the parish of Brossart NCC etc.

 

Don't all of those head coaches (NCC, Brossart, etc...) in the Covington diocese answer to one superintendent?

 

As far as the feeder programs, what is to keep the parents of the better players from enrolling them at the same elementary schools/feeders? I am sure that I would do just that...even if it meant driving a few extra miles every day. THERE ARE NO RULES AGAINST IT AND IT IS NOT 'DIRTY' TO DO IT. That is the point- public schools are not coordinated/associated in a way that is conducive to funneling the better athletes to one school.

 

 

You aren't taking into account open enrollment school systems. In Jefferson County, if accepted, a child can attend the public high school of their choice, and there are many public high schools in Jefferon County. There's more to the situation than public/private. There's open enrollment/closed district, & urban/rural differences as well.

To answer the qyestion at hand-NO. Mainly because the All-A is not a KHSAA sanctioned tourny. therefore, they can invite whoever they want.

there be separate All A Classics for both public and private schools?

 

Why or why not?

 

Why are the private schools dominating?

 

 

Guru posted this question, knowing it would become a BGP Instant Classic....

 

Yet there hasnt been many direct answers to either question. I posted the number of participants vs the number of privates. So what do you think concerning question #2 asked by Guru?